[Mccoypottery-talk] A "Fake" Idea

[Patti]

Mark there are appraisers online and they are very expensive  Judith Katz -Swartz is one
that I know  she  belongs to anothet  group i  also belong to Peacelist  she deson't
really give info to anyone   on  the list but  does  show her auctions    of course
casue it is alsoa list to show your  wares  .  To me charging  people a fee   especially
people I know   and care about  just   doesn't sit right with me  . But I also do not
consider myself  an expert   in any area  there is still a lot to earn.  I also feel  if
a person is going to  buy to collect or buy to resell they should   get educated  not
have to  rely  on others  for the info that will always   be valuable to them. People buy
these fakes becasue they   either   know and don't care   that they are fakes   or  think
they will become  collectible some day   (dumb)  or  they  just want to  buy cheap  and
don't care if its real or not if it looks decent.
Faye is only one  person selling this stuff and as I see   on her  listings she never
claims  anythign is old  just that she buys and  sell what  she  can get that she  knows
moves and makes her money.
Slthugh se  does leave out that she  buys  a lot of the same items   which  must be by
wholesale   she  can get away with it  becasue nobody   has   made  an issue   about it
she  will refund   so as for fraud  maybe nobody botherd to ever  file on her.
I myself would  bid but cancel i don't want to buy this junk  for  comparison  you can
see it online  .
by law  faye cna sell this stuff its whomver  is making it that is committing the crime
by using the name   since he was warned before and   is a felon .

Mark Jennings wrote:

> Hi y'all,
>
> I'm not sure, but my neurons may have just fired away with something that's
> actually worth thinking about, so try to hear me out, please.
>
> It could be that there's a *legitimate* lucrative upside for someone
> because of all the reproduction & fake stuff whizzing around in cyberspace.
> (Maybe for someone on this list?) Someone who can spot a reproduction or
> fake practically at a glance should offer your services online - for a fee.
>
> I'm only writing as I think ... You could "hook" more potential customers
> by stating that their credit card, which must be given before
> consideration, (then check for it's validity!) won't be charged unless
> you're 100% sure with your "yes or no" answer, thereby "guaranteeing" your
> services ... Or maybe you could guarantee by saying that if you tell them
> it's an authentic piece and they can later prove that it's not, you'll buy
> it from them for the amount (with proof) that they paid ?? ... Like I said,
> I'm just thinking ...
>
> This service wouldn't be needed, of course, if all sellers plainly stated
> whether the listed item is a reproduction or fake. But many describe their
> items in such sneaky ways. You have to read between the lines to "catch on"
> to the fact that it's not authentic. And as I think we all agree, unknowing
> people need to be aware of this.
>
> I don't know all the "how-to's" for getting your website "out there", so to
> speak, to inform the public of your services, but I know the basics of what
> would have to be done. And I'm sure there's someone on this list with the
> logistics - or someone who knows someone who does.
>
> There would be the up-front cost of having a user-friendly website
> developed with a professional appearance unless you know how to do that
> yourself. Then the cost of having it listed in the correct way with the
> major search engines so that your site shows up any time a search is done
> with anything having to do with the subject, being linked with many key
> words including anything having to do with pottery, major manufacturers'
> names, etc., etc. And it would be very important that this be done in a way
> (we're talking money, here) that the link to your site appears **near the
> beginning** of the search results, not only for people to find you, but
> also to make people aware that they even need your services. Then there's
> the monthly cost of keeping your website online with a good web server
> ..... Maybe I was wrong about the "lucrative" part, but maybe there's some
> pottery lover who would like to do this as a labor of love. You could use
> your fees to recuperate the up-front expense and to cover operating costs -
> hopefully.
>
> I know there are appraisers with websites with ways of contacting them, but
> I'm not aware of any who offer to evaluate a piece that's for sale on the
> internet, or at least none who specifically target their services
> exclusively to online customers. Of all the searches I've done lately
> (mostly on Google.com) including searches for "McCoy", "McCoy for sale",
> "buy McCoy", "American pottery" (also w/ "for sale"),  "Hull" (also w/ "for
> sale") "Roseville", etc., etc., etc., I've found many good results, but so
> far I haven't ran across a service like this. Is there someone who
> specifically targets online folks, and I've missed it?
>
> [still just thinking ..... I know that there are many times when you could
> be sure that a piece definitely is or is not authentic simply by looking at
> photos, but would there be too many cases where it'd be impossible to
> evaluate/appraise something that you can't actually have in your hands?]
>
> If any of you highly qualified people are feeling "entrepreneurial" you
> should think about this, in my opinion. Several times on this list alone,
> just since I recently subscribed, I've read ... "Could someone take a look
> on tias, ebay, etc. and tell me what you think of item ' X ' ?"  I've done
> that, myself ..... Knowing myself the way I do, I know that I'm getting
> closer as time goes by about starting a serious (for my standards)
> collection - not just buying a few pieces here and there, now and then. And
> until I'm sure that I can spot "fakes" on my own, it would be worth a few
> bucks to me to save even *more* than a few bucks by unwittingly buying
> junk. If I could be guaranteed a correct answer, even if it's, "Don't buy
> it!", it'd be worth it to me. Hey, there's another idea! You could say that
> if it's not an authentic piece, you'd be willing to try and help them find
> one - for an added fee ...... oh boy - I just had another thought - you
> might have the added expense of getting an attorney involved to cover
> yourself from law suits, etc. from these sellers of junk.
>
> For all I know, there's someone who already does all I've talked about and
> more, or you've already discussed all this. Maybe the ones who've read this
> far are laughing by this point. I'd better stop now. I could go on and on,
> but it's very late. I think I'll take an Ambien and go to bed.
>
> Goodnight,
> Mark
>
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