From revaughn@webtv.net Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:01:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:01:11 -0500 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN revaughn@webtv.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal I don't have a paypal account. but this afternoon, would you believe, 10 requests for paypal account verification. Forwarded all 10 to spoof@paypal.com. Seems as though I get either paypal or ebay fake emails almost daily. Beware! From cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:29:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:29:03 -0600 From: j b cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal Me too and they come more and more frequently. James From New Orleans (where Mardi Gras is now in FULL swing) I feel more like I do Now than I did when I got Here! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN=20 To: McCoyPottery-Talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal I don't have a paypal account. but this afternoon, would you believe, 10 requests for paypal account verification. Forwarded all 10 to spoof@paypal.com. Seems as though I get either paypal or ebay fake emails almost daily. Beware! -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mcco= ypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:32:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:32:24 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] another fake seller Saw another seller of fakes and e-mailed them. here is the question and response from the seller. at least this one didnt cuss me out, lol. Dave Dear hephzibubba, You asked: "Mccoy never made this. it is a fake as is the other you have listed. thought you would like to know" Thanks. I thought so. They are not mine, I am selling them for someone else. She is hard to convence of these things! Nahm View this listing now to bid or purchase this item. Item # Item Title Listing end date 3779087276 Vintage McCoy Cookie Jar "Pappy" No Reserve! Feb-06-05 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From mcaudill@kih.net Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:08:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:08:33 -0500 From: M CAUDILL mcaudill@kih.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal And it seems to me they're getting smarter and more creative! ----- Original Message ----- From: "j b" To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal Me too and they come more and more frequently. James From New Orleans (where Mardi Gras is now in FULL swing) I feel more like I do Now than I did when I got Here! ----- Original Message ----- From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN To: McCoyPottery-Talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal I don't have a paypal account. but this afternoon, would you believe, 10 requests for paypal account verification. Forwarded all 10 to spoof@paypal.com. Seems as though I get either paypal or ebay fake emails almost daily. Beware! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:33:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] "Jensen-McCoy" Mammy eBay item #3955725106 is a Mammy CJ marked Jensen-McCoy. Is this something new Roger is making? The seller, gophish04, also has another fake Mammy but I think is clueless. They list the second one as Vintage 1940's but then describes her as 10.5 inches tall. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:45:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] "Jensen-McCoy" Mammy I read somewhere that roger jenson did this ahile back, dont know if he is still doing it. And what in the wide, wide world of sports is "westernized facial features". Does that mean the mammy I have has eastern facial features???LOL Dave eBay item #3955725106 is a Mammy CJ marked Jensen-McCoy. Is this something new Roger is making? The seller, gophish04, also has another fake Mammy but I think is clueless. They list the second one as Vintage 1940's but then describes her as 10.5 inches tall. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From CATMADDIL@aol.com Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:36:43 EST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:36:43 EST From: CATMADDIL@aol.com CATMADDIL@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal Hi, I just want to thank all of you for everything you list and talk about. If it wasn't for reading your posts, I probably would have replied to the paypal email, as I get them to. I do collect Mccoy and enjoy the informative information. Thank you all, Cathy From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:39:37 EST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:39:37 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Jensen McCoy You can go to Quita's web site she did an article about Jensen and this mark. Here is the link that I have. http://www.quita.net/ From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:43:41 EST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:43:41 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] paypal I have 3 different emails that I use and only one is connected with my ebay and paypal accounts and I get these things in all 3 mail boxes and I just send them on to either ebay or paypal. I don't even bother to read them anymore especially if they come to the 2 boxes that are not connected to the accounts. From cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:45:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:45:45 -0600 From: j b cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Jensen McCoy That's a great article!\ \James ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com=20 To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Jensen McCoy You can go to Quita's web site she did an article about Jensen and this m= ark.=20 Here is the link that I have. http://www.quita.net/=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mcco= ypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:58:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:58:49 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] hmmmmmmm Hi Ya'll, cruising ebay and selected mccoy by highest price first and noticed this. 2 different "chairman of the board" CJ's. one for $300 and the other for $350, 2 different sellers, BUT the same person bidding on both. I wonder if the person is greedy or a dealer and wants both, or is there possibly shill bidding going on here? The auction numbers are 3780417572 and 3779702203. the bidder id is honestjim2. I had a little success this weekend and picked up a few pieces. One is a piece that I suspect is unmarked mccoy, but am not sure. gonna look into it. Have a great day! Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. From tharlan@twinvalley.net Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:16:34 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:16:34 -0600 From: Tim Harlan tharlan@twinvalley.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] hmmmmmmm I have seen the bidder honestjim2 before on ebay. He bids on a lot of McC= oy and is often the high bidder. Many different sellers, so I don't think= there is any funny business going on. At least I hope not, as he is cur= rent high bidder on one of my auctions, 3780158410 . Looks like he sp= ends a lot of money on ebay.. Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: david mcCoy=20 To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] hmmmmmmm Hi Ya'll, cruising ebay and selected mccoy by highest price first and noticed this. 2 different "chairman of the board" CJ's. one for $300 and the other for = $350, 2 different sellers, BUT the same person bidding on both. I wonder if= the person is greedy or a dealer and wants both, or is there possibly shil= l bidding going on here? The auction numbers are 3780417572 and 3779702203.= the bidder id is honestjim2. =20=20=20 I had a little success this weekend and picked up a few pieces. One is a = piece that I suspect is unmarked mccoy, but am not sure. gonna look into it= .=20 =20=20=20 Have a great day! Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mcco= ypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:30:04 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:30:04 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] hmmmmmmm On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:58 AM, david mcCoy wrote: > Hi Ya'll, > cruising ebay and selected mccoy by highest price first and noticed > this. > 2 different "chairman of the board" CJ's. one for $300 and the other > for $350, 2 different sellers, BUT the same person bidding on both. I > wonder if the person is greedy or a dealer and wants both, or is there > possibly shill bidding going on here? The auction numbers are > 3780417572 and 3779702203. the bidder id is honestjim2. > No this just looks like a collector that really wants that jar. I have often bid on the same thing twice with the same maximum that I would pay and just let the auctions run their course. Kinda like buying two lottery tickets. Anyway, judging from what this guy has purchased in the past, he looks to be an honest (as his name implies) McCoy fanatic. Perfect feedback, and just about everything he ever bought was a McCoy. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:52:40 EST Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:52:40 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] (no subject) Hi saw a wall pocket like this can someone tell me who origianilly made this. The one that I found has no marks except for the clover and Good Luck on the back. Thanks Carolyn http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=89&item=3780353527&rd=1 From revaughn@webtv.net Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:20:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:20:28 -0500 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN revaughn@webtv.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] (no subject) This is a multi-part message in MIME format... --WebTV-Mail-20148-624 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Both my husband and I agree that this doesn't look like anything McCoy that we have seen. --WebTV-Mail-20148-624 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3309.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.167) by storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:54:35 -0800 Received: from home.mia.net (home.mia.net [209.236.224.204]) by smtpin-3309.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 32239E128; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from home (IDENT:mail@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by home.mia.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j16Mqsm15795; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:52:54 -0600 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by home.mia.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j16Mqqm15780 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:52:52 -0600 Received: from Curly79065@wmconnect.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id 5.e3.c9a6db9 (2612) for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:52:40 EST To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] (no subject) Sender: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com Errors-To: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com X-BeenThere: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com List-Id: X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Hi saw a wall pocket like this can someone tell me who origianilly made this. The one that I found has no marks except for the clover and Good Luck on the back. Thanks Carolyn http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=89&item=3780353527&rd=1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --WebTV-Mail-20148-624-- From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:36:23 EST Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:36:23 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] (no subject) The one that I saw today is yellow has no marks. I have seen it somewhere but not sure who made it. I am sure the one my friend has is an original just not sure who's original it is. It is a very pretty wall pocket much prettier than the one here. I told her I didn't think McCoy made it but would see if anyone here might know. I thought maybe Shawnee but like a say I am not sure at all. So if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it. She said that when they went down south Texas that she had seen lots of them with the McCoy mark but that this one was taller she knows that if one is smaller that it is a fake. Thanks Carolyn From damitboy@yahoo.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:06:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:06:31 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] (no subject) I may be wrong here, but the wallpocket does not seem to have much detail, not a very sharp or detailed mold. I would guess not mccoy. Curly79065@wmconnect.com wrote:Hi saw a wall pocket like this can someone tell me who origianilly made this. The one that I found has no marks except for the clover and Good Luck on the back. Thanks Carolyn http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=89&item=3780353527&rd=1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:39:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] a new seller of junk Here is a new one, ddsellsmp1 . had a bunch of #$&%* ending tonight. I emailed him/her and informed them that all the mccoy they had listed tonight was fake. see what kind of response I'll get Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From damitboy@yahoo.com Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:43:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:43:46 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No pun intended Look at the starting price of this 3781301190. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 05:25:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 05:25:10 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No pun intended hmmmm Reminds of of DixieCollectiables and their Cauliflower Mammy CJ. This seller is a regular fake-peddler. Musta gotten all excited about getting something real. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From lisaherewa@hotmail.com Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:38:18 -0800 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:38:18 -0800 From: lisa a lisaherewa@hotmail.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No pun intended Quite a markup. Seller paid $380.01 on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50709&item=3774093064 ### ----Original Message Follows---- From: Walter McEntire Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No pun intended Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 05:25:10 -0800 (PST) hmmmm Reminds of of DixieCollectiables and their Cauliflower Mammy CJ. This seller is a regular fake-peddler. Musta gotten all excited about getting something real. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:34:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:34:21 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] WOW Hi Ya'll, I emailed a seller that has a fake mammy and informed them of the fact. they emailed back, but not with the typical cussing me out letter, but used it in their listing. still asking $150 for a fake though, incredible. check it out, ebay #3781037700 Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:43:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv Hi Ya'll, was just watching the antiques roadshow on public tv and a lady had a piece of pottery. said she paid 25 for it at an antique store years ago. turned out it was early mccoy, jewel line and about 8 inches tall. the appraiser valued it at $700-$1000. first time I have seen mccoy on the antiques roadshow, but I havent seen all the episodes. Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From etuten551@aol.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:21:10 EST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:21:10 EST From: etuten551@aol.com etuten551@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv Dave : Do you agree with the appraisal? Ed From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:46:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:46:17 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv Not sure Ed, havent seen much of that line anywhere. seems kinda high, but I like when it appraises high, makes my lil ole collection look better to me everyday, lol. speaking of which, I have aquired more pieces and am going to take photos for insurance reasons. I'll let ya'll know when I do and will send photos to anyone interested. Dave etuten551@aol.com wrote: Dave : Do you agree with the appraisal? Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. From etuten551@aol.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:03:31 EST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:03:31 EST From: etuten551@aol.com etuten551@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv To be honest, I had never seen a piece of "jewel" before... From what they said it was a "art" pottery which would compete with Weller and Rookwood? or am I reading too much into it? Since I am a member of ISA I am supposed to "know" all this but I find out I know less and less instead of more and more. I am sorry they did not show the markings...were these signed as Rookwood and Weller..?? many questions Ed From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:08:41 EST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:08:41 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv Jewel Line is a very lovely older line of McCoy. Actually of the Art Pottery Lines made by McCoy, Jewel and Zuni are the most common found. That doesn't mean they're found all the time...they're not...Quite a nice find. Have a good day! Quita http://www.quita.net From listmom@mccoypottery.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:42:32 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:42:32 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] our_country_treasures what a laugh Ok, so I wrote to old country treasuer's (known seller of fakes on eBay) about a Little Red Riding Hood they were selling. You can pretty much guess what the first part of the conversations was. It was me saying, hey, McCoy NEVER made a LRH... Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, here is the response: From: OMITTED (list mom's email) Date: February 7, 2005 7:00:16 PM CST Subject: Re: Question for item #3781274631 - MCCOY COOKIE JAR ~ LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD ~ CUTIE NR To: our_country_treasures@yahoo.com On Feb 7, 2005, at 6:24 PM, Our Country Treasures wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the information. Maybe you should do some > more research. > > Roger Jensen McCoy 1991 to 1993 did make a Red Riding > Hood. > Sorry, you are wrong. There is no "Roger Jensen McCoy". His name is "Roger Jensen". Last name is "Jensen", not McCoy. You might want to re-read your "information". You are wrong. McCoy Pottery did not exist in 1991-93. They closed up in 91 So in short... 1. McCoy never made a Red Riding Hood cookie jar 2. Roger Jensen, not Roger Jensen McCoy made this jar 3. The jar is not McCoy. 4. McCoy pottery ceased operations in 1991 You might want to distinguish between Roger Jensen, who is a known maker of fake, reproductions, and pieces that (like this one) McCoy never made. Perhaps a listing like this: "For Sale, Roger Jensen Little Red Riding Hood, non-McCoy fake" or something to that affect. Have a lovely day! Funny stuff! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:44:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv speaking of rookwood, I picked up a nice piece at auction a few weeks back because my wife liked the way it looked and the coloration. I got it for 15 bucks and had no idea what rookwood was until my buddy......Walter......pointed me to a few websites to research it. Man was I pleasantly suprised at how much that stuff sells for! Dave etuten551@aol.com wrote: To be honest, I had never seen a piece of "jewel" before... From what they said it was a "art" pottery which would compete with Weller and Rookwood? or am I reading too much into it? Since I am a member of ISA I am supposed to "know" all this but I find out I know less and less instead of more and more. I am sorry they did not show the markings...were these signed as Rookwood and Weller..?? many questions Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:46:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:46:18 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] our_country_treasures what a laugh our_country_treaures........dey be edumocated....lol McCoy Pottery List Mom wrote:Ok, so I wrote to old country treasuer's (known seller of fakes on eBay) about a Little Red Riding Hood they were selling. You can pretty much guess what the first part of the conversations was. It was me saying, hey, McCoy NEVER made a LRH... Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, here is the response: From: OMITTED (list mom's email) Date: February 7, 2005 7:00:16 PM CST Subject: Re: Question for item #3781274631 - MCCOY COOKIE JAR ~ LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD ~ CUTIE NR To: our_country_treasures@yahoo.com On Feb 7, 2005, at 6:24 PM, Our Country Treasures wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the information. Maybe you should do some > more research. > > Roger Jensen McCoy 1991 to 1993 did make a Red Riding > Hood. > Sorry, you are wrong. There is no "Roger Jensen McCoy". His name is "Roger Jensen". Last name is "Jensen", not McCoy. You might want to re-read your "information". You are wrong. McCoy Pottery did not exist in 1991-93. They closed up in 91 So in short... 1. McCoy never made a Red Riding Hood cookie jar 2. Roger Jensen, not Roger Jensen McCoy made this jar 3. The jar is not McCoy. 4. McCoy pottery ceased operations in 1991 You might want to distinguish between Roger Jensen, who is a known maker of fake, reproductions, and pieces that (like this one) McCoy never made. Perhaps a listing like this: "For Sale, Roger Jensen Little Red Riding Hood, non-McCoy fake" or something to that affect. Have a lovely day! Funny stuff! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From etuten551@aol.com Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:50:10 EST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:50:10 EST From: etuten551@aol.com etuten551@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] mccoy on tv You had better believe it... Good stuff...production pcs...100-450.00 :signed art pcs in the 1,000's . Am. Art Pottery Association is a great place to see and study Rookwood and Weller+ the Marbleheads, Newcomb, Carolina stuff... l Love pots...any, all, get goose bumps... Ed From damitboy@yahoo.com Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:31:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:31:33 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] hmmmmmmmmmmmm again Here is a listing by whiterabbitonmain, a known fake seller. just so happens that bobhill212, or something like it is bidding on 2 auctions of the same fake jars. shill bidding???? auction # 6152252503 Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From rachelsattic@charter.net Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:40:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:40:29 -0500 From: Rachel's Attic rachelsattic@charter.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Mug? My name is David Jones and with my wife and daughter, we own a general line antique shop in the East Tennessee town of Dandridge. I have a turquoise mug with a diamond design and a rope handle. A consignor has brought it to me as McCoy. I am unable to find any like it in my McCoy books. Would anyone be willing to look at a picture and tell me what you think as to the maker? I have long enjoyed reading many of the emails but this is my first time to interact. Thanks for any help that anyone can provide. David C. Jones Rachel's Attic General Line Antiques and Collectibles Anne & David Jones and Rachel Glenn rachelsattic@charter.net www.rachelsatticantiques.com http://www.rubylane.com/shops/rachelsatticcollectibles http://www.rubylane.com/shops/rachelsatticantiques From damitboy@yahoo.com Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:14:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Mug? Hi David, dont know if I can be of help, but I am more than willing to look at photos of the mug, email me direct at damitboy@yahoo.com Dave Rachel's Attic wrote: My name is David Jones and with my wife and daughter, we own a general line antique shop in the East Tennessee town of Dandridge. I have a turquoise mug with a diamond design and a rope handle. A consignor has brought it to me as McCoy. I am unable to find any like it in my McCoy books. Would anyone be willing to look at a picture and tell me what you think as to the maker? I have long enjoyed reading many of the emails but this is my first time to interact. Thanks for any help that anyone can provide. David C. Jones Rachel's Attic General Line Antiques and Collectibles Anne & David Jones and Rachel Glenn rachelsattic@charter.net www.rachelsatticantiques.com http://www.rubylane.com/shops/rachelsatticcollectibles http://www.rubylane.com/shops/rachelsatticantiques ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From revaughn@webtv.net Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:20:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:20:50 -0500 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN revaughn@webtv.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Mug? You may send me photos at revaughn@webtv.net I have books on quite a few different books on pottery that I can check out. Elizabeth From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:47:58 EST Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:47:58 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Mug? i have a few books i will be glad to help curlystoner101@yahoo.com From Sajoppru@aol.com Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:23:37 EST Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:23:37 EST From: Sajoppru@aol.com Sajoppru@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Re: Mccoypottery-talk digest, Vol 1 #408 - 20 msgs What is this about another junk seller! From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:45:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:45:47 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Hi guys, I've taken a 7 month hiatus, but I've returned with a present. See eBay auction 6154366757 This auction will run each week for now on. It will also reside in our store for now on. We'll be proactive with this guide, and add to it constantly. Happy Valentines Day! Kevin Reffitt (Roger, I know you scan this forum. I hope this eats your lunch) From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:47:27 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:47:27 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes In a message dated 2/14/2005 1:46:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, kreffitt@pbtcomm.net writes: 6154366757 How ironic. How very ironic. http://www.quita.net From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:18:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:18:18 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Chiquita, You wrote me for an explanation, and I provided one, on all counts. You wrote me a couple of one or two liners, I wrote back pages. Then you never responded to the answers you asked for. Was that fair? Have you looked over the work Michelle and I did for the benefit of you people? Well, I'll tell you this.... You people may have lost a few dollars here and there, maybe got taken on a jar once in a while, but my family and friends have lost thousands to the bastard Jensen. He has been a cancerous disease to my little town. I battle him for the well being of my community, and some of you do it as a "side note", or a hobbie. I can't help it you don't like the business I'm in, but I don't take ANYONE for a fool. We're straight-forward and honest with our product, and do our best to educate people. Isn't that enough? You really wouldn't want to put me in the same class as the Roger types, because if I had a mind to, I could create the best and ONLY forgeries in this country. Roger makes fakes...easy to spot...junk. I could fool you...even the best of you. Good thing I'm the honest type, huh? Now Chiquita, and you too Barb, let's get real and be collectors. Let's quit calling names and making accusations. I'm a collector too, dang it. For having only collected for two years, I have quite the selection, and some very rare pieces to brag about. I can be a benefit to this forum, and I would like to share my finds, just like you do. Truce? Kevin At 01:47 AM 2/14/05, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 2/14/2005 1:46:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, >kreffitt@pbtcomm.net writes: > >6154366757 > > > >How ironic. How very ironic. > > > >http://www.quita.net > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:25:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes I hope you get a lot of hits on your auction and that they all go to the website! What a great job you did! There was a lot of information I already knew, but a lot of new tips as well. I constantly refer to a bunch of different links for research and info... and refer others to them as well. It's nice to have so much info in one place. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and some of the pottery world's secrets! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:48:44 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:48:44 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes You and your wife took me for a fool! Not appreciated at all! http://www.quita.net From xmascookie@thecookiejar.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:54:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:54:38 -0600 From: ~barb crews xmascookie@thecookiejar.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes >Now Chiquita, and you too Barb, let's get real and be collectors. Let's >quit calling names and making accusations. I'm a collector too, dang >it. For having only collected for two years, I have quite the selection, >and some very rare pieces to brag about. huh? And when have I called you a name? Or made an accusation? The top ten list you have on your web site are very similar to ones on my web site and have been there for several years, and in no place do I list your company as trying to defraud a customer. From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:21:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:21:15 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Chiquita, I'm truly sorry things didn't work out like you had hoped, but you're taking out your disappointment on us. Please, look over ALL our correspondence with you, and you'll see that everything we've ever told you was the truth. Things are as they are just because they are, but not through deception. Think hard, and if there is anything specific that you think we were dishonest about, say it. As always, we'll address it. Barb, I brought up you name because I felt you did the same thing to us. You asked a question, and I provided a very long and detailed answer. I asked for your opinion and suggestions, and I never heard from you again. Ask Chiquita, I even mentioned that to her in my email to her dated 12/01/04. How about we all just take a deep breath, relax, and start over? Kevin At 08:48 AM 2/14/05, you wrote: >You and your wife took me for a fool! Not appreciated at all! > > > > >http://www.quita.net > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:31:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:31:03 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Well.... So far we've received 3 nasty grams and two threats from the fake sellers on eBay. Seems they are going to sue me, eBay, and god for exposing them. One seller has even informed me that the fakers are going to gang up on us and "bring us down". I guess I've flushed them out of the woodwork. I'll post their names and email addresses on this list for your info just as soon as the flurry ends. Kevin From listmom@mccoypottery.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:09:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:09:31 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > Well.... > > So far we've received 3 nasty grams and two threats from the fake > sellers on eBay. Seems they are going to sue me, eBay, and god for > exposing them. One seller has even informed me that the fakers are > going to gang up on us and "bring us down". > > I guess I've flushed them out of the woodwork. I'll post their names > and email addresses on this list for your info just as soon as the > flurry ends. > > The best place to list fake sellers, ebay ID's etc, is in our Forums in the Fake section. We cannot edit our mailing list or list archives which are on the net forever, but a forum post can be edited if there are ever any legal issues. http://forums.mccoypottery.com/viewforum.php? f=6&sid=95630009fc10b0c66f2e27f789f4d73a Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:29:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:29:08 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Noted, and done. Thanks for the heads up. Kevin At 04:09 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > >>Well.... >> >>So far we've received 3 nasty grams and two threats from the fake >>sellers on eBay. Seems they are going to sue me, eBay, and god for >>exposing them. One seller has even informed me that the fakers are >>going to gang up on us and "bring us down". >> >>I guess I've flushed them out of the woodwork. I'll post their names >>and email addresses on this list for your info just as soon as the >>flurry ends. >> > >The best place to list fake sellers, ebay ID's etc, is in our Forums in >the Fake section. We cannot edit our mailing list or list archives >which are on the net forever, but a forum post can be edited if there >are ever any legal issues. > >http://forums.mccoypottery.com/viewforum.php? >f=6&sid=95630009fc10b0c66f2e27f789f4d73a > > > > > >Regards, >The List Mom >McCoy Pottery Online >www.mccoypottery.com >listmom@mccoypottery.com >____________________________________________ >McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com >McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com >McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:29:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:29:23 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to fakes Let's hope as many (and more) BUYERS have read it! --- Kevin Reffitt wrote: > Well.... > > So far we've received 3 nasty grams and two threats > from the fake sellers > on eBay. Seems they are going to sue me, eBay, and > god for exposing > them. One seller has even informed me that the > fakers are going to gang up > on us and "bring us down". > > I guess I've flushed them out of the woodwork. I'll > post their names and > email addresses on this list for your info just as > soon as the flurry ends. > > Kevin > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the > message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: > http://lists.mccoypottery.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:51:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:51:35 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed through. On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. From listmom@mccoypottery.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:58:26 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:58:26 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:51 PM, david mcCoy wrote: > I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the > fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. > I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed > through. > > Yeah, I cannot imagine their threats are anything more than intimidation. In any event, I am not too particularly worried about posts in the forums or the lists (assuming they are legit), since the idea behind this list is to have a place to have a free discussion and sharing of information. Saving someone the aggravation of getting taken by a fake seller, is not necessarily a bad thing. I would refrain from producing the home address, telephone number, etc., of such offenders if you have that info. Generally their eBay ID is suffice :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From capriherb@earthlink.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:16:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:16:14 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Question for Kevin... I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question for you. What is on the bottom of your jars? Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of david mcCoy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed through. On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol Dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:47:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:47:51 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Hi Jennifer, We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our work, and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there is no confusion. No fakes here. Period. http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying the bottom of the jar. Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on all our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight the Roger Jensens. Hope this helps, Kevin http://www.storybookceramics.com At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >Question for Kevin... >I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question >for you. >What is on the bottom of your jars? >Jennifer > >-----Original Message----- >From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >david mcCoy >Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM >To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > >I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the >fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. >I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed >through. > >On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water >sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol > >Dave > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From tharlan@twinvalley.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:54:55 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:54:55 -0600 From: Tim Harlan tharlan@twinvalley.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list. Re :(Question for Kevin) Kevin: I have the same question as Jennifer; How are your jars and= other items marked? Just in case I come across some of your work at a = estate sale. The original owner may have been well aware, but how do = I know? Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jennifer Smith=20 To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Question for Kevin... I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question for you. What is on the bottom of your jars? Jennifer =20=20=20= From capriherb@earthlink.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:26:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:26:55 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list By stamping do you mean the greenware or a foil stamp? If you are actually taking the McCoy or Hull off and putting Storybook Creations on them, I see no problem at all with what you are doing. I also see no problem with your ebay auctions or anything else. Maybe I'm missing something.....? I also asked because someone from this list emailed me several months back and said you were selling fakes. So naturally I looked when I saw you posting again. Thanks for your response! Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Reffitt Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:48 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Hi Jennifer, We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our work, and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there is no confusion. No fakes here. Period. http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying the bottom of the jar. Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on all our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight the Roger Jensens. Hope this helps, Kevin http://www.storybookceramics.com At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >Question for Kevin... >I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question >for you. >What is on the bottom of your jars? >Jennifer > >-----Original Message----- >From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >david mcCoy >Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM >To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > >I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the >fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. >I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed >through. > >On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water >sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol > >Dave > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. 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You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:31:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:31:14 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list. Re :(Question for Kevin) Oh, I forgot to mention. We also REMOVE the old marks in the mold. Our "McCoy" Mammys are smooth bottomed (while retaining the original foot) with the exception of our mark. See our mark here: http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg Kevin At 06:54 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >Kevin: I have the same question as Jennifer; How are your jars >and other items marked? Just in case I come across some of your work >at a estate sale. The original owner may have been well aware, but >how do I know? >Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jennifer Smith > To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:16 PM > Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > > Question for Kevin... > I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question > for you. > What is on the bottom of your jars? > Jennifer > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From mccoy@mccoypottery.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:33:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:33:42 -0600 (CST) From: mccoy@mccoypottery.com mccoy@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list The key here is to completely remove the use of a name McCoy, Hull, etc from any ads on reproduction style products so that the product stands on its own and has no association with McCoy etc. That is truely the correct thing to do. Then you have no problem. As long as there is any mention of McCoy you are selling on the backside of the name and too many people do not read between the lines and this affects the collector and puts one into a Jensen category. > By stamping do you mean the greenware or a foil stamp? > If you are actually taking the McCoy or Hull off and putting Storybook > Creations on them, I see no problem at all with what you are doing. > I also see no problem with your ebay auctions or anything else. Maybe I'm > missing something.....? > I also asked because someone from this list emailed me several months back > and said you were selling fakes. So naturally I looked when I saw you > posting again. > Thanks for your response! > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com > [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of > Kevin Reffitt > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:48 PM > To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > > Hi Jennifer, > > We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different > reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our work, > and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there > is > no confusion. No fakes here. Period. > > http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg > > This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying > the bottom of the jar. > > Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on > all > our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these > pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. > > If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this > community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight > the Roger Jensens. > > Hope this helps, > > > Kevin > http://www.storybookceramics.com > > > > At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >>Question for Kevin... >>I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question >>for you. >>What is on the bottom of your jars? >>Jennifer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >>[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >>david mcCoy >>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM >>To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >>Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list >> >> >>I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the >>fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. >>I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed >>through. >> >>On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water >>sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol >> >>Dave >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - >>- >>To be removed from the list, send email to >>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >>To be removed from the list, send email to >>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > Bella Mia, Inc. 401 Host Drive Lake Geneva, WI 53147 262-248-6759 From mccoy@mccoypottery.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:39:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:39:49 -0600 (CST) From: mccoy@mccoypottery.com mccoy@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Sorry, but I forgot to be specific. Remove the terms "Inspired by McCoy", "McCoy Style", etc. Do not use the association. > The key here is to completely remove the use of a name McCoy, Hull, etc > from any ads on reproduction style products so that the product stands on > its own and has no association with McCoy etc. That is truely the correct > thing to do. Then you have no problem. As long as there is any mention of > McCoy you are selling on the backside of the name and too many people do > not read between the lines and this affects the collector and puts one > into a Jensen category. > >> By stamping do you mean the greenware or a foil stamp? >> If you are actually taking the McCoy or Hull off and putting Storybook >> Creations on them, I see no problem at all with what you are doing. >> I also see no problem with your ebay auctions or anything else. Maybe >> I'm >> missing something.....? >> I also asked because someone from this list emailed me several months >> back >> and said you were selling fakes. So naturally I looked when I saw you >> posting again. >> Thanks for your response! >> Jennifer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >> [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >> Kevin Reffitt >> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:48 PM >> To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >> Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list >> >> >> Hi Jennifer, >> >> We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different >> reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our >> work, >> and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there >> is >> no confusion. No fakes here. Period. >> >> http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg >> >> This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying >> the bottom of the jar. >> >> Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on >> all >> our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these >> pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. >> >> If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this >> community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight >> the Roger Jensens. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> >> Kevin >> http://www.storybookceramics.com >> >> >> >> At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >>>Question for Kevin... >>>I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big >>> question >>>for you. >>>What is on the bottom of your jars? >>>Jennifer >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >>>[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >>>david mcCoy >>>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM >>>To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >>>Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list >>> >>> >>>I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the >>>fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. >>>I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed >>>through. >>> >>>On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water >>>sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol >>> >>>Dave >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------- >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>> Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >>>- >>>To be removed from the list, send email to >>>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >>> >>>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >>>To be removed from the list, send email to >>>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >>> >>>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> To be removed from the list, send email to >> mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >> You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To be removed from the list, send email to >> mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >> You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >> > > > Bella Mia, Inc. > 401 Host Drive > Lake Geneva, WI 53147 > 262-248-6759 > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > Bella Mia, Inc. 401 Host Drive Lake Geneva, WI 53147 262-248-6759 From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:41:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:41:01 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Hi again Jennifer, Permanent, under the glaze stamp. And yes, we remove to old mark when the mold is made. Thank you for your kind words about our auctions and adds....we have tried to make everyone comfortable with our product. I mean, really...look at our LRRH jar. She has quite the beautiful face....:-) http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/lrrh/poppy/face.jpg Kevin At 07:26 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >By stamping do you mean the greenware or a foil stamp? >If you are actually taking the McCoy or Hull off and putting Storybook >Creations on them, I see no problem at all with what you are doing. >I also see no problem with your ebay auctions or anything else. Maybe I'm >missing something.....? >I also asked because someone from this list emailed me several months back >and said you were selling fakes. So naturally I looked when I saw you >posting again. >Thanks for your response! >Jennifer > >-----Original Message----- >From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >Kevin Reffitt >Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:48 PM >To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > >Hi Jennifer, > >We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different >reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our work, >and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there is >no confusion. No fakes here. Period. > >http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg > >This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying >the bottom of the jar. > >Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on all >our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these >pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. > >If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this >community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight >the Roger Jensens. > >Hope this helps, > > >Kevin >http://www.storybookceramics.com > > > >At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: > >Question for Kevin... > >I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question > >for you. > >What is on the bottom of your jars? > >Jennifer > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com > >[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of > >david mcCoy > >Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM > >To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > >Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > > > > >I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the > >fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. > >I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed > >through. > > > >On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water > >sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol > > > >Dave > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >- > >To be removed from the list, send email to > >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > >To be removed from the list, send email to > >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From capriherb@earthlink.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:16:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:16:52 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I read several of Kevin's auctions and I think "in the style of" whatever is fine.... Just my 2 cents... -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of mccoy@mccoypottery.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:34 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list The key here is to completely remove the use of a name McCoy, Hull, etc from any ads on reproduction style products so that the product stands on its own and has no association with McCoy etc. That is truely the correct thing to do. Then you have no problem. As long as there is any mention of McCoy you are selling on the backside of the name and too many people do not read between the lines and this affects the collector and puts one into a Jensen category. > By stamping do you mean the greenware or a foil stamp? > If you are actually taking the McCoy or Hull off and putting Storybook > Creations on them, I see no problem at all with what you are doing. > I also see no problem with your ebay auctions or anything else. Maybe I'm > missing something.....? > I also asked because someone from this list emailed me several months back > and said you were selling fakes. So naturally I looked when I saw you > posting again. > Thanks for your response! > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com > [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of > Kevin Reffitt > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:48 PM > To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list > > > Hi Jennifer, > > We stamp EVERYTHING that leaves our shop with our stamp for different > reasons. We are trying to develop a brand name, we are proud of our work, > and especially with the vintage design items, we want to make sure there > is > no confusion. No fakes here. Period. > > http://www.storybookceramics.com/images/main/stamp.jpg > > This stamp is under the glaze, and can not be removed without destroying > the bottom of the jar. > > Per Barb's suggestion, we'll be showing/adding this mark in our adds on > all > our venues. We have been completely clear with our add text that these > pieces are made by us, but will also go the extra step to show the mark. > > If there is anything else anyone can suggest to further help this > community, please let me know. I have the time and the stamina to fight > the Roger Jensens. > > Hope this helps, > > > Kevin > http://www.storybookceramics.com > > > > At 06:16 PM 2/14/05, you wrote: >>Question for Kevin... >>I just read all your information and your ad but I do have a big question >>for you. >>What is on the bottom of your jars? >>Jennifer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com >>[mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of >>david mcCoy >>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:52 PM >>To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >>Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list >> >> >>I am glad to see the list moving a bit. I am also happy to see the >>fakers(expletives deleted) getting riled up. >>I got a few threats when I had my listing on, but they never followed >>through. >> >>On a lighter note....I just got my first McCoy turtle, the water >>sprinkler...my wife loves it!! cute little guy he is, lol >> >>Dave >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > - >>- >>To be removed from the list, send email to >>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com >> >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -- >>To be removed from the list, send email to >>mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. >> >>You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > - > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > Bella Mia, Inc. 401 Host Drive Lake Geneva, WI 53147 262-248-6759 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:20:16 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:20:16 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I was waiting to see if anyone expressed the thoughts that I have, Mom did....I don't think there should be any reference to McCoy in fakes/look-a-likes-new productions, whatever. If they're so in demand, let them stand on their own...why not do original work instead of using someone elses ideas and work.? New comers to the collecting world get really confused by all this stuff.... From capriherb@earthlink.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:30:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:30:34 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I guess I'm so used to this in the glass business that I don't really pay it much attention Quita. There are molds from Phoenix from the 1800's which were used by McKee in the early 1900's, then Kemple in the 50's and 60's, then Wheaton in the 60's and then Westmoreland through the 80's and are now being used by Moser, Boyd and Fenton. As long as something is properly marked, what's the difference? Like I said, it is just a matter of where one is coming from I guess. After all, the artists at Rookwood cdopied Beleek and then Weller, Owens, and McCoy copied Rookwood and we all know that and understand it and accept it. What's the difference between then and now? At least Kevin's wares are marked as reproductions and still I see nothing wrong with it. I will advertise an item as being an original mold made by so and so but used by another factory or factories before it came to the factory which is making it today. In the glass business and the early standard glaze pottery, one just has to know their stuff..... Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of McQuita@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:20 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I was waiting to see if anyone expressed the thoughts that I have, Mom did....I don't think there should be any reference to McCoy in fakes/look-a-likes-new productions, whatever. If they're so in demand, let them stand on their own...why not do original work instead of using someone elses ideas and work.? New comers to the collecting world get really confused by all this stuff.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:32:29 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:32:29 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list In a message dated 2/14/2005 8:31:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, capriherb@earthlink.net writes: There are molds from Phoenix from the 1800's which were used by McKee in the early 1900's, then Kemple in the 50's and 60's, then Wheaton in the 60's and then Westmoreland through the 80's and are now being used by Moser, Boyd and Fenton. that's not something I'm concerned with...I'm concerned with the many many letters, e-mails i get from confused McCoy collectors. http://www.quita.net From capriherb@earthlink.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:43:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:43:06 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Do you also get letters and emails from collectors wanting to know why those Beleek fakes were done by Rookwood, Owens, Weller, AND McCoy? And just think McCoy and Owens didn't even bother to sign their fakes. And yes they were fakes as they were copied exactly from the Beleek or Rookwood (again copies or fakes one could say) pieces.... I think it's just all relevant. IF a McCoy collector can't read the bottom of a pot that is clearly marked something other than McCoy then maybe they need to be collecting Pyrex or FireKing. Sorry, but that argument just doesn't fly with me. If Kevin is marking his stuff appropriately and using his own artistic license on the mold, then NO collector could ever be confused, unless of course they are just so disinterested in their collection that they don't take the time to educate themselves. Just because you are financially able and willing to spend several hundred dollars on a jar, does it mean that it can't be reproduced inexpensively for those who can't afford it? After all, it really should be a compliment to the pottery factories that their molds are so desirable after all these years that someone is reproducing them. Again, not marked correctly, not attributed correctly...fake and wrong. New and marked appropriately, reproduction and in my book totally acceptable and even possibly bringing new collectors into the field to collect the "real" thing. Okay... I won't go on...:P) Friends? -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of McQuita@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:32 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list In a message dated 2/14/2005 8:31:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, capriherb@earthlink.net writes: There are molds from Phoenix from the 1800's which were used by McKee in the early 1900's, then Kemple in the 50's and 60's, then Wheaton in the 60's and then Westmoreland through the 80's and are now being used by Moser, Boyd and Fenton. that's not something I'm concerned with...I'm concerned with the many many letters, e-mails i get from confused McCoy collectors. http://www.quita.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From McQuita@aol.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:45:23 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:45:23 EST From: McQuita@aol.com McQuita@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list In a message dated 2/14/2005 8:43:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, capriherb@earthlink.net writes: Just because you are financially able and willing to spend several hundred dollars on a jar, does it mean whoa, this is getting personal....I'm out of work, have been since the spring of last year... My bills are struggling to get paid....i can't spend crap on a jar right now....I'll not respond to anything else on this list. From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:59:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:59:30 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Hi Chiquita, >I was waiting to see if anyone expressed the thoughts that I have, Mom >did....I don't think there should be any reference to McCoy in >fakes/look-a-likes-new productions, whatever. If I were marketing a die-cast replica of a 1942 VW Beetle, how would I title the add? How about "Die-cast replica of a little 1942 German car that looks like an insect but I can't use it's name."? I list over 275 items at this point, but less than 1/3 of them are reproductions. How can I sell a reproduction of a McCoy Mammy if I don't leverage off of the McCoy name? As long as I clearly state this jar is a repro, and mark it as such, then there should be no problem with the descriptor. I'm giving credit to the design, and selling a Storybook Ceramics product. How is what I do any different to Mark Supnick's Commemorative Edition of the Shawnee Smiley Pig? >If they're so in demand, let them stand on >their own...why not do original work instead of using someone elses ideas and >work.? We do original work, and don't use the McCoy, or any other name other than ours, to identify the jar. Look at this jar: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29459&item=3944814943&tc=photo This is my very best selling jar, the McCoy Jar doesn't come close to this jar's movement. You'll notice I use nobody's name other than our own. So you see, I don't need the McCoy name to sell our products, but use the name only where appropriate and warranted to correctly describe the jar. >New comers to the collecting world get really confused by all this >stuff.... Not with our products they wont. We are not trying to deceive or trick anyone. Now, this is perfect. I was hoping we could have this kind of debate. It's good for the collectors, and good for me. I think we need to debate the issue of fakes vs. Reproductions, and to discuss how it affects (or not affect) the collectors. When this debate is over, I hope to come out of this as a friend to the collector, as I can be a GREAT resource to you guys. There are some of you that have thousands of jars in your collection, but I know/can know how they were made. Thanks again, Kevin From lisaherewa@hotmail.com Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:34:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:34:24 -0800 From: lisa a lisaherewa@hotmail.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I have watched this discussion with great interest. It seems that although there are many viewpoints about the entire enterprise of non-vintage jar sales, that barn-burner is off-topic. The relevant conflict within this thread where we could make progress seems to be semantics. I do share the objection to the use of the term "reproduction" in regard to any contemporary jar that uses anything other than the original molds on the grounds of inaccuracy. If I am selling a new purple cow jar made from the original mold, I am selling a reproduction. If I am selling a new mammy jar made from my artistic interpretation or expression or own casting of the original jar, I am not selling a reproduction. I am selling something that can be described as "inspired by." This is similar to music CDs that large media conglomerates release to capitalize on the popularity of one of their movies. They release a soundtrack (which contains music that was truly in the motion picture) and a companion item (which contains music in the style or subject of the motion picture) and label it "music inspired by the motion picture." It's similar, but it's not authentic. I think there are a number of opportunities for each of these listings in this store to disclose, educate, elevate, and assure buyers, sellers, and vintage-only collectors. Showing the stamp every time is a start and should be reflexive (every jar should have a picture of the bottom, IMO). Including a tidbit *within the listing* on how to tell the vintage jar from this jar and from the true fakes (such as "Brush never labeled jars Brush-McCoy -- it's a dead giveaway the jar is not vintage or Brush") would be helpful. I would like to add that I was massively ripped off my first week on eBay and only through a series of skilled questions was I able to leave the fake peddler no other option than a complete refund, including return shipping. I also would like to add that I was recently massively ripped off by a vintage peddler who publicly lied about the condition of the jar, privately berated me, and then publicly like that I tried to back out of the sale -- my only negative feedback on eBay, and it's a lie. So ethically, the fake peddler actually did right when I reported I was unsatisfied. The obvious counterargument is that the fake peddler has more to lose by being exposed, but my badly made point is that the fact that the jar is vintage does not automatically make the transaction morally superior. Both sellers lied to the entire eBay community. As for posting information about identity and labeling sellers as fake peddlers, please be careful to avoid libel. It is not wise to post e-mail threads because a privacy violation, though ludicrous, could successfully be argued. The extent to which one can proceed with minimal worry would be to list many responses to the listing of the item with the group heading of "Responses from the eBay Community" -- including thumbs up and thumbs down in equal numbers. For instance: "You have killed our business model and I will hunt you down like the lame dog that you are!" -- kay's_faulty_memories "I always wondered how to tell vintage from new. Thanks!" -- ebaynewbie (Retain the original e-mails in perpetuity.) ### ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jennifer Smith Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: RE: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:43:06 -0500 Do you also get letters and emails from collectors wanting to know why those Beleek fakes were done by Rookwood, Owens, Weller, AND McCoy? And just think McCoy and Owens didn't even bother to sign their fakes. And yes they were fakes as they were copied exactly from the Beleek or Rookwood (again copies or fakes one could say) pieces.... I think it's just all relevant. IF a McCoy collector can't read the bottom of a pot that is clearly marked something other than McCoy then maybe they need to be collecting Pyrex or FireKing. Sorry, but that argument just doesn't fly with me. If Kevin is marking his stuff appropriately and using his own artistic license on the mold, then NO collector could ever be confused, unless of course they are just so disinterested in their collection that they don't take the time to educate themselves. Just because you are financially able and willing to spend several hundred dollars on a jar, does it mean that it can't be reproduced inexpensively for those who can't afford it? After all, it really should be a compliment to the pottery factories that their molds are so desirable after all these years that someone is reproducing them. Again, not marked correctly, not attributed correctly...fake and wrong. New and marked appropriately, reproduction and in my book totally acceptable and even possibly bringing new collectors into the field to collect the "real" thing. Okay... I won't go on...:P) Friends? -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of McQuita@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:32 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list In a message dated 2/14/2005 8:31:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, capriherb@earthlink.net writes: There are molds from Phoenix from the 1800's which were used by McKee in the early 1900's, then Kemple in the 50's and 60's, then Wheaton in the 60's and then Westmoreland through the 80's and are now being used by Moser, Boyd and Fenton. that's not something I'm concerned with...I'm concerned with the many many letters, e-mails i get from confused McCoy collectors. http://www.quita.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. 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Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:03:00 EST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:03:00 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to Fakes Ok folks i have set here and read all the post on this subject so i am going to put my 2 cents in.. first off kevin let me say that the guide you have put out is good,and hopefully it will get around to the people who need it and not the just the fake sellers... now here is my problem with this when i went in and checked your other autions you are selling the same jars that you have in your guide. i know that they are reproduction jar and yes you have they were "inspired by " but do you really think that a new collector can seperate the real from the other... and are they going to understand that what you are selling are not original?i say this because i had to read the desciption twice to make sure what you were saying... maybe if you were to word the description differnt and make sure that there is a pic of your mark on the jars then maybe that would help? i think that maybe what some are trying to tell you i don't know that for a fact but maybe? anyone is free to correct me if i'm wrong. now as far as the comment that someone might be able to afford to pay hundreds of dollars on a jar where someone else might not be able to and this is the only way to get the jar i have to disagrre with that statement for 2 reasons first it should have not been made and second if you are a collector you will find a way to get the original I have at least 20 mccoy jars all original and i have not paid more than 90.00 for a jar and that was my mammy, i have the pontiac jar that i gave around 40.00 for in mint condition off ebay. my feeling is if you want it you will either find a way to pay for it then or wait because a better deal i bound to come around. Patients is all it takes ... ok i will get off the soap box for now. From listmom@mccoypottery.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:00:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:00:12 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] New Quick Reply feature added to Forums We have added a "Quick Reply" feature to the forums. With the Quick Reply you will notice a "Quick Reply" window at the bottom of every thread. You can easily reply right from the thead window/page to a post without having to hit the "Reply" button. There is a nice group of Emoticons and other options available. Enjoy!!! You can visit the Forums here: http://forums.mccoypottery.com Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From listmom@mccoypottery.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:04:49 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:04:49 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Need input for a new mod I am adding the Forums Hello, I am adding a new feature to the McCoy Pottery Forums which will display the most recent/current Forum Topics. So, here are the questions I have. I welcome all input: 1. Would you like to see this displayed in a pop up window? Basically you would be able to click on a link on the forums page to "View Most Current Topics" and get a small popup that displays the following output: http://forums.mccoypottery.com/222.php 2. Would you like to see the output (http://forums.mccoypottery.com/222.php) displayed on the forums pages. I could have it load on the bottom, top, though I am thinking about the left side just under the Google Ads. 3. How many Most Current Topics should be listed? 5, 10, 20? I have it set for 5 currently. 4. Would you like to see the time and date, just the time or date of the most recent topics? Anyway, just go to http://forums.mccoypottery.com/222.php to see what the output looks like. Keep in mind that this is just the page with the output. I will code the forums so it pulls this feed into the forums pages once I get enough input on what to do with it. Thank you. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:57:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:57:11 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list There are some very good points that Lisa and Curly (Excuse me if these aren't your names, I've referred to your email address for this info) made, and I would like to address those points in full, but it's getting late and I'm tired. I did want to say though, the pictures of the mark are in order, and will be included. We've worked real hard to achieve a balance of good marketing, complete disclosure, good taste, and compliance with eBay rules. Believe me, we HAVE been blunt in the past by using "reproduction" in the title and add, but eBay has canned our auctions time after time for keyword spamming. We've tried reproduction, style, inspired by, design, etc, but eBay is picky, and far from consistant. Each time our powerseller support specialist gives us a word list that's "acceptable", the next specialist cans our auctions again. This is a constant battle with eBay. On our TIAS store, every reproduction jar we list has "repro" in the title, and in each add text, we state that this is a "newly created collectable". Lastly for the night....Curly, I know you didn't mean to insult Michelle by saying we sell the same jars we talked about in our "guide". We sell McCoy, Shawnee, and Hull/Regal China Reproductions, along with our own items, not that crude, ugly, junk fake crap. ( this was meant in a lighter tone of voice...let's keep the humor rolling ) She says that if you don't think she paints any better than Roger Jensen, then she's heading right out to the back yard and burning all her paint brushes. :-) Kevin From cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:21:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:21:00 -0600 From: j b cyclops-eyesonly@msn.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to Fakes I've read all the posts as well and all I have to add is this: I stopped bu= ying on ebay for just this controversy. I love Mccoy and I'll buy it every = chance I get, but, I'll never purchase another one on ebay from someone I d= on't know. I really don't care about the history or who was copying who way= back when, I like Mc Coy cookie jars and the few that I have I adore, but = the bottom line is I want the real thing not something that was "inspired b= y" something else. A fake is a fake.=20 James from New Orleans ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com=20 To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:03 AM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Guide to Fakes Ok folks i have set here and read all the post on this subject so i am go= ing=20 to put my 2 cents in.. first off kevin let me say that the guide you have put out is good,and=20 hopefully it will get around to the people who need it and not the just t= he fake=20 sellers...=20 now here is my problem with this when i went in and checked your other=20 autions you are selling the same jars that you have in your guide. i know= that they=20 are reproduction jar and yes you have they were "inspired by " but do you= =20 really think that a new collector can seperate the real from the other...= and are=20 they going to understand that what you are selling are not original?i say= this=20 because i had to read the desciption twice to make sure what you were=20 saying... maybe if you were to word the description differnt and make sur= e that there=20 is a pic of your mark on the jars then maybe that would help? i think that maybe what some are trying to te= ll=20 you i don't know that for a fact but maybe? anyone is free to correct me = if i'm=20 wrong. now as far as the comment that someone might be able to afford to pay=20 hundreds of dollars on a jar where someone else might not be able to and = this is the=20 only way to get the jar i have to disagrre with that statement for 2 reas= ons=20 first it should have not been made and second if you are a collector you = will=20 find a way to get the original I have at least 20 mccoy jars all original= and i=20 have not paid more than 90.00 for a jar and that was my mammy, i have the= =20 pontiac jar that i gave around 40.00 for in mint condition off ebay. my f= eeling=20 is if you want it you will either find a way to pay for it then or wait b= ecause=20 a better deal i bound to come around. Patients is all it takes ...=20 ok i will get off the soap box for now. =20=20=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mcco= ypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:47:19 EST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:47:19 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list I wasn't trying to insult or offend anyone last night,let me see if I can put in words what I was trying to say last night that apparently didn't come out right.. When I see a jar on ebay that isn't the real thing I email the seller and let them know that what they have is a reproduction jar and in that email I send them links to help them learn about these jars... How confused are they going to be when I send them to your site and they see ALMOST the same jar that they are trying to sell.. (I am not referring to the paint) it is the reproduction jar that I am talking about. I just think there has to be a better way to word your descriptions without using the names of the original maker at least in the title.. Ya'll are both very talented people your original jars are great and hopefully in time they will become as collectible as McCoy,Hull,and Shawnee.. Curly > > Lastly for the night....Curly, I know you didn't mean to insult Michelle by > saying we sell the same jars we talked about in our "guide". We sell > McCoy, Shawnee, and Hull/Regal China Reproductions, along with our own > items, not that crude, ugly, junk fake crap. ( this was meant in a lighter > tone of voice...let's keep the humor rolling ) She says that if you don't > think she paints any better than Roger Jensen, then she's heading right out > to the back yard and burning all her paint brushes. > > :-) > > Kevin > From Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:24:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:24:40 -0600 From: Betty Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list There are so many new cookie jars that are available at a price of $10. and some less. The last time I bothered to count the cookie jars available at Wal-Mart there was 14 different ones and the most expensive $12.50 most $9.99. I doubt that any of those jars will ever be collectable except to someone that is just wanting jars with a Santa on them or some particular animal. The Storytime Jars appear to be well painted with detail. I liked the use of 'vintage style' in the one description. Putting the bottom of the jar in the ads even to say "We are not ashamed to show our bottom". Would make people l@@k at the bottom. "Do you have all of the Storytime Jars" will make some want to collect yours. Some people cannot be educated, We had a dealer that had one of the LRRH jars marked as McCoy up at Collectomania. Had a lady wanting to buy it for $100. another dealer told her that she didn't think it was authentic and had her bring it to me so see what I thought. I of course did my thing to educate her and she finally said. "Well maybe McCoy made just a few of them and not enough to be featured in the books. Maybe that will make it worth more in years to come" You cannot educate those among us that still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. Betty, the Okie in Iowa From capriherb@earthlink.net Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:27:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:27:30 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list Betty: Great Post!!! I agree with every single thing you said! BUT...... I HAVE sold those older $10.00 jars for as much as $50.00 on ebay, even made in China and Tiwan. But unlike those jars, (Kevin please correct me if I'm wrong here!), these are pottery not plaster of paris which the jars are at Wally world. Sheila is doing a stupendous job painting the glazes on the jars too and they are not cold painted which means the glaze should last for a long time. I realize this is a McCoy collectors list and I really would expect nothing more from a McCoy collector than to want and seek the "real McCoy". However, even in the county next to where they are made, I see customers come in daily who can't afford that $100.00 McCoy Flower Form vase, or that McCoy Panda Jar, even Bobbie Baker. They are going to spend $25.00 to $30.00 and that's it. They really love the McCoy, Hull, Roseville, Weller, and other of our beloved potteries, but they really haven't got the income for the old pottery. What Kevin is doing I think is targeting that market (from his BIN prices) and these folks will have the opportunity to get the jar that reminds them of grandma's without paying the high price. Something else to think about is using these jars. I'm assuming (again Kevin please correct me if I'm wrong!) Kevin is using lead free paints and these are affordable to the point that they can be used, thrown in the dishwasher, have water put in them, etc and there is not that worry about ruining a part of our tradition. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:25 AM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list There are so many new cookie jars that are available at a price of $10. and some less. The last time I bothered to count the cookie jars available at Wal-Mart there was 14 different ones and the most expensive $12.50 most $9.99. I doubt that any of those jars will ever be collectable except to someone that is just wanting jars with a Santa on them or some particular animal. The Storytime Jars appear to be well painted with detail. I liked the use of 'vintage style' in the one description. Putting the bottom of the jar in the ads even to say "We are not ashamed to show our bottom". Would make people l@@k at the bottom. "Do you have all of the Storytime Jars" will make some want to collect yours. Some people cannot be educated, We had a dealer that had one of the LRRH jars marked as McCoy up at Collectomania. Had a lady wanting to buy it for $100. another dealer told her that she didn't think it was authentic and had her bring it to me so see what I thought. I of course did my thing to educate her and she finally said. "Well maybe McCoy made just a few of them and not enough to be featured in the books. Maybe that will make it worth more in years to come" You cannot educate those among us that still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. Betty, the Okie in Iowa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:58 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] the list On Feb 15, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Betty wrote: > There are so many new cookie jars that are available at a price of > $10. and some less. The last time I bothered to count the cookie jars > available at Wal-Mart there was 14 different ones and the most > expensive $12.50 most $9.99. I doubt that any of those jars will ever > be collectable except to someone that is just wanting jars with a > Santa on them or some particular animal. Oddly enough the Wal-Mart Jars are quite nice (for what they are.) Let me qualify. I bought one a few years ago that looked like a Kitchen Scale. It is a nice jar, very colorful; soft pastels. It was on the Clearance rack for .50. What a bargain! So again, "for what they are"; cheap! I chipped the jar cleaning it. No, I did not bang it against something.. Hot water caused it to chip, then crack... I still have it, but it is not going to last generations like McCoy jars do. But for a cheap jar that I do not have to worry about, its not bad. Certainly not a collector, however if it breaks, who cares. > > Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:34:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:34:35 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor It's been a long day, but I had to share this. Ya know, when you're scum, you're scum all the way. Try this on for size: Roger's wife Lavon like to "chat" in internet chatrooms. She likes to find new and interesting men on these sites. She like to occasionally leave Roger for the new and interesting men. She did it once in June '03 ,came back, and again just before the holidays this year. She's still gone...or is she??? Anyways, this is how it all lays out. Lavon cuts out, and Roger moves his new girlfriend "DD" in. DD sells Roger's jars under the eBay ID "mccoypotterymaker". Lavon turns up in Kansas, and being the warm and forgiving person that she is, strikes up a business relationship with this new couple. Roger's wife now takes shipments of junk jars from Roger and his girlfriend, and sells them under the eBay ID "rrhcookiejarlady". in Kansas. Jesus! Beam me up, Toto. From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:52:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:52:46 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor Here's some more... This is what Faye's feedback looks like if you could see it. This is REAL. http://www.storybookceramics.com/rogerjensen/Negative-Neutral%20Feedback%20received%20by%20fayes_southern_memories%20-neg_neut.htm From damitboy@yahoo.com Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:04:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor she must have goobered awhile back because there for a few days, her feedback was public, and man, no wonder she keeps it hidden,lol. Dave Kevin Reffitt wrote: Here's some more... This is what Faye's feedback looks like if you could see it. This is REAL. http://www.storybookceramics.com/rogerjensen/Negative-Neutral%20Feedback%20received%20by%20fayes_southern_memories%20-neg_neut.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From listmom@mccoypottery.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:21:18 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:21:18 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor On Feb 15, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > Here's some more... > > This is what Faye's feedback looks like if you could see it. This is > REAL. > > > http://www.storybookceramics.com/rogerjensen/Negative- > Neutral%20Feedback%20received%20by%20fayes_southern_memories%20- > neg_neut.htm > Trouble is, it is still a 98% feedback rating, which is not too shabby.. I have barely that and I have only had one Negative ever, and 2 neutrals... But then again, I do not have near 4000 transactions under my belt. Either way, this is good information. You should post the feedback link in our forums under fakes. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:16:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:16:03 -0500 From: Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Karen Phillips/GeneralOffice/TrimMasters is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 02/16/2005 and will not return until 02/18/2005. I will respond to your message when I return. If you should need immediate attention, please contact Jim Morgan. ====================================================================== This e-mail and any attachments from Trim Masters, Inc. may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From MidwestVintage@aol.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:35:04 EST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:35:04 EST From: MidwestVintage@aol.com MidwestVintage@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor This is why I can not understand why ebay continues to let her sell. Why take our word when her customers words tell the whole story. Shame on ebay. Julia From capriherb@earthlink.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:51:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:51:55 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor Well if I sell 2000 jars on eBay and only 20 people say they are fakes, the other 1980 seem to be satisfied so ebay would assume that there were just 20 disgruntled people, and 1980 who felt it was the "real McCoy". She's a snake! -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of MidwestVintage@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:35 AM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor This is why I can not understand why ebay continues to let her sell. Why take our word when her customers words tell the whole story. Shame on ebay. Julia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From MidwestVintage@aol.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:56:44 EST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:56:44 EST From: MidwestVintage@aol.com MidwestVintage@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor Buyers are starting to get the picture though. I have had more requests for my how to tell fakes listings and one person emailed me to tell me I had helped prevent her from making a costly mistake. She was going to bid on one of Fayes jars. So little by little it is helping with the listings everyone is doing. Julia From capriherb@earthlink.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:02:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:02:02 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! Folks, I know this is a bit off topic but not really since so many of us buy and sell on eBay. On Feb. 18 all fees (especially those for stores) will go up quite a bit. Some as much as 60%. This is hurting those who sell items under $25.00 badly as the fees are increases for such things as gallery photos, etc. I hope that those who sell will stop their auctions as a symbol of unity, those with stores will close them for ONE WEEK, and those who surf and buy will spread their wings and try some of the new venues out there such as Overstock. (http://www.auctions.overstock.com) By showing a unified front, it is hoped that eBay will see that they need to roll back these high increases. Just ONE WEEK, try Amazon, Yahoogroups, iOffer, Overstock, and the other venues. You might even want to check out Tias.com, Trocadero.com, Cyberattic.com, Rubylane.com and the other online store front vendors out there. Take this week to explore the world wide internet and you will be astounded at what you will find outside eBay. The goal of many of us is to get eBay away from being the ONLY auction source that has dominated the market and to expand the other sites so sellers (and therefore buyers because costs are always passed to the consumer) will eventually have some leverage with eBay. With them basically holding a monopoly all these years, they can do whatever they want. And with their last quarter earnings something like $900 million dollars, there was no reason other than greed to raise all their prices. One other thing we are doing as a protest is on February 18 (Friday) we will be doing a click campaign against eBay. This is very simple. Just go to http://www.google.com and type in something like McCoy Pottery. On the far right column there is a list of "Sponsored links". One of these will be eBay.com. Click on that. Wasn't that fun? It takes you to eBay's pottery category! Click back on your browser and try it again! I know it will be so much fun you'll want to spend quite a bit of time exploring eBay this way! (Now don't forget to NOT bid!). Every time you click eBay has to pay Google for the click. This will show them civil disobedience in their pocket book. It is your personal decision to tell eBay that you are against their new increases! Thanks! Jennifer From MidwestVintage@aol.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:06:36 EST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:06:36 EST From: MidwestVintage@aol.com MidwestVintage@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! Don't forget McCoy Pottery has an auction site and there is also old and sold which charges its sellers nothing to list. Julia From Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:48:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:48:45 -0600 From: Betty Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! Jennifer, I wish you were my neighbor. You have an evil wicked little mind, together we could torment the entire area. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! > Don't forget McCoy Pottery has an auction site and there is also old and > sold > which charges its sellers nothing to list. > > Julia > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > From capriherb@earthlink.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:57:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:57:30 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! Acutally I'm not evil at all, but believe strongly in fairness and honesty to a fault! Gotta run.... I am getting trained in Rodney's care for his arrival HOME next Wednesday! YIPEE!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:49 AM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! Jennifer, I wish you were my neighbor. You have an evil wicked little mind, together we could torment the entire area. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! > Don't forget McCoy Pottery has an auction site and there is also old and > sold > which charges its sellers nothing to list. > > Julia > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:05:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:05:17 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] A little *fake* humor On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Jennifer Smith wrote: > Well if I sell 2000 jars on eBay and only 20 people say they are > fakes, the > other 1980 seem to be satisfied so ebay would assume that there were > just 20 > disgruntled people, and 1980 who felt it was the "real McCoy". > She's a snake! > > The two best ways to get kicked off eBay: 1. Sell food, body parts, or ask for donations. (body parts includes Governor Arnold's chewing gum) 2. Do not pay .27 (yes 27 cents in disputed fees). Anyway.. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From listmom@mccoypottery.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:57:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:57:50 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Jennifer Smith wrote: > > One other thing we are doing as a protest is on February 18 (Friday) > we will > be doing a click campaign against eBay. This is very simple. Just go > to > http://www.google.com and type in something like McCoy Pottery. On > the far > right column there is a list of "Sponsored links". One of these will > be > eBay.com. Click on that. Wasn't that fun? It takes you to eBay's > pottery > category! Click back on your browser and try it again! I know it > will be > so much fun you'll want to spend quite a bit of time exploring eBay > this > way! (Now don't forget to NOT bid!). Every time you click eBay has > to pay > Google for the click. This will show them civil disobedience in their > pocket book. It is your personal decision to tell eBay that you are > against > their new increases! > > DO NOT (I very rarely yell on the net) DO NOT do this!!! This is wrong. Many of us make our living either advertising, or publishing on the web. Abusing Google's AdWord's with fraudulent clicks is a sure fire way to find yourself in a lot of trouble. Not only is it unethical, it is illegal, and people have gone to jail for it. The McCoy group of sites is supported in part by AdSense ads, and as such any abuse of that systems could mean an end to AdSense, and perhaps even and end to this site and the lists. You are not going to hurt eBay by clicking on their AdWords links in Google. You are going to hurt all the other advertisers and publishers who use that system. I would really seriously reconsider doing anything like this. I would also pass the word onto others that would do this. It is not a good idea. It might be a good idea to retract the above statement publicly as well given it is pretty good evidence of you encouraging illegal behavior. If you do not like eBay's fees or practices, do not use eBay. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of other auctions sites out there. In any event if you would pay more attention to what is really going on with eBay's fee structure you would find that they DID already lower several of their fees based on the outcry from people who are as upset about this as you. Thread closed - Ok, so back to McCoy Pottery... Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From xmascookie@thecookiejar.net Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:41:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:41:13 -0600 From: ~barb crews xmascookie@thecookiejar.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Antique Trader Article Received the latest issue this morning and has a two page article on McCoy, most specifically on McCoy cookie jars. Carol Seman was interviewed for the article and looks like Moran (McCoy author) was also quoted. So.. if you have a chance don't miss the article. I've sometimes not read my issues for a few weeks, at least this one I picked up right away. From listmom@mccoypottery.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:35:48 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:35:48 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Most Active Topic's Preview Hello, I have just about completed coding the "Most Recent Topics" section for the McCoy Pottery forums. You can preview them here: http://forums.mccoypottery.com/2222.php I am looking comments/suggestions, etc. This will be placed at the bottom of the forums at the end of very post so you can see the most recent/active Topics on the forum. I am hoping it will encourage folks to participate more on the forums. Finally we will have a version and some code anyone can embed in their web page (if you have one). If you have a Pottery and or McCoy oriented site it will be a good way to generate traffic back to the forums. That leads us to our next feature/announcements for the forums. We are going to be setting up a Revenue Sharing system that will utilize Googles AdSense. The way this will work is all the AdSense ads on the site that are tied to the McCoy Pottery AdSense account will allow forum members that have an AdSense account to enter their AdSense ID into their profile. In short what we have done is setup a system so the ad revenue can be shared between all active members of this forum. The forum displays one advertisement in the upper right area. We use Google AdSense to automatically serve relevant ads for the content on the page. Google pays AdSense publishers on a per click basis (not per impression). If a user has an AdSense account, they have the ability to credit their account with the ads served on threads they start or participate in. Look for an announcement on this in the forums and on this list sometime over the weekend! Thank you! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From listmom@mccoypottery.com Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:47:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:47:37 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Earn money using the McCoy Pottery Forums! What we have done is setup a system so the ad revenue can be shared between all active members of the McCoy Pottery forums. The forums display an advertisement in the upper right area. We use Google AdSense to automatically serve relevant ads for the content on the page. Google pays AdSense publishers on a per click basis (not per impression). If a user has an AdSense account, they have the ability to credit their account with the ads served on threads they start or participate in. If you go to the "Profile" section on your account, at the top there is a button that says "Setup Adsense". If you have an AdSense account, you can specify your AdSense client ID (and a channel if you want). If you specify it, the AdSense ads that are served on threads you start have a 50% chance that they are credited to your AdSense account (both impressions and click-throughs). The only stipulation on it is you must have 20 or more total posts before it's active for your account (it's retroactive for all previous threads once you hit that level though). If you do not know what AdSense is, please igore this post. I welcome any comments.. Otherwise --- Enjoy!!! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:12:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:12:23 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger has gone insane... See eBay item #6155542368 I think I'll reserve comment until tomorrow...it's hard to reach the keyboard from this position on the floor. Kevin From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:29:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:29:35 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger has gone insane... On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:12 AM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > See eBay item #6155542368 > > I think I'll reserve comment until tomorrow...it's hard to reach the > keyboard from this position on the floor. > The "New McCoy Factory in Tennessee"? Ah, ok.. I sometimes wonder if he does not carve the Mark into the bottom of the jars himself. You really have to wonder if it is effective to yell in a eBay auction. Perhaps I should buy Roger's Jar so he can afford fix his CAP's LOCK KEY! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:42:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:42:31 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger has gone insane... Hey guys... I just had a thought. Don't email or "ask seller a question", or report him to eBay just yet. I want to see where he goes with this. One of Roger's largest faults, besides he's just plain ugly, is that if you stand back for a few minutes and not say anything, he'll just keep going until he totally hangs himself. Happens EVERY TIME. I've SEEN it happen. Let him keep talking... Kevin At 01:12 AM 2/17/05, you wrote: >See eBay item #6155542368 > >I think I'll reserve comment until tomorrow...it's hard to reach the >keyboard from this position on the floor. > >Kevin > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From capriherb@earthlink.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:06:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:06:53 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger has gone insane... Well, I have several comments...... 1. The very FIRST cookie jar I ever bought was this one, but he only marked it with McCoy, not Brush McCoy (huh???). But my jar was much better cause Roger did a great job crazing it nicely to make it look old. That's how I found this list originally I think.... So THANKS Rog for selling a fake to the auctioneer who I paid $45.00 for this jar to! Of course later I found out the auctioneer is just as bid a crook as Roger seems to be, or maybe I should say exagerator! But it got me collecting the "real thing" and it and the Planter's jars are both upstairs on the bottom shelf in the bedroom. I can't sell them, can't throw them away, so they are here until I die I guess! 2. I have heard of young entrepeneurs before, but a SEVEN YEAR OLD running what is assumed to be a big pottery company! That's a NEW ONE!!! -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Reffitt Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:12 AM To: mccoypottery-talklistsmccoypotterycom Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger has gone insane... See eBay item #6155542368 I think I'll reserve comment until tomorrow...it's hard to reach the keyboard from this position on the floor. Kevin You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From Beth.Cunningham@EKU.EDU Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:45:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:45:37 -0500 From: Cunningham, Beth Beth.Cunningham@EKU.EDU Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof Yesterday, a work colleague got one of the fake Ebay emails asking for information, saying that her account was being suspended, the usual malarkey. She had never received one before so she clicked on the link, noticed that it wanted fairly personal information, got suspicious and got out of the email. Well, today someone is London, England has listed software for sale on Ebay under my friend's user name. She contacted Ebay and has been told that just clicking on these emails may be enough for someone to get her user name and password.=20=20 =20 Everyone out there, please be careful. Do not open these fraudulent Ebay messages!!! Her experience should be a lesson to all of us. By the way, this woman is very computer savvy and even she was fooled! =20 Beth in Kentucky From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:20:09 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:20:09 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: > Yesterday, a work colleague got one of the fake Ebay emails asking for > information, saying that her account was being suspended, the usual > malarkey. She had never received one before so she clicked on the > link, noticed that it wanted fairly personal information, got > suspicious > and got out of the email. Well, today someone is London, England has > listed software for sale on Ebay under my friend's user name. She > contacted Ebay and has been told that just clicking on these emails may > be enough for someone to get her user name and password. No, just clicking on them does not grab anything other than all the information anyone can grab publicly about your machine/connection, etc.. Things like your IP, user-agent(browser), etc.. If this happened, then she entered here information into the fields/form and clicked submit. That is the only way they can get your user info. > > > > Everyone out there, please be careful. Do not open these fraudulent > Ebay messages!!! Her experience should be a lesson to all of us. By > the way, this woman is very computer savvy and even she was fooled! > Opening the message is not going to automatically send some fraudster your username, or cc or CVV number.. Unless someone has embedded all that information in their email program and told it to give the information out. Just do not fill out the form and give them the info. That is the only way the get it :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From Beth.Cunningham@EKU.EDU Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:34:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:34:29 -0500 From: Cunningham, Beth Beth.Cunningham@EKU.EDU Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof Well, I'm no expert but I can attest that she did not fill out any information and Ebay is the one who told her "it is possible" that someone can get your user name and password if you click on these messages. Yes, I realize that it seems far fetched, but I will certainly not be opening one ever again. Not worth taking a chance. Beth in KY -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com] On Behalf Of McCoyPottery.com List Mom Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:20 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: > Yesterday, a work colleague got one of the fake Ebay emails asking for > information, saying that her account was being suspended, the usual > malarkey. She had never received one before so she clicked on the > link, noticed that it wanted fairly personal information, got > suspicious > and got out of the email. Well, today someone is London, England has > listed software for sale on Ebay under my friend's user name. She > contacted Ebay and has been told that just clicking on these emails may > be enough for someone to get her user name and password. No, just clicking on them does not grab anything other than all the information anyone can grab publicly about your machine/connection, etc.. Things like your IP, user-agent(browser), etc.. If this happened, then she entered here information into the fields/form and clicked submit. That is the only way they can get your user info. > > > > Everyone out there, please be careful. Do not open these fraudulent > Ebay messages!!! Her experience should be a lesson to all of us. By > the way, this woman is very computer savvy and even she was fooled! > Opening the message is not going to automatically send some fraudster your username, or cc or CVV number.. Unless someone has embedded all that information in their email program and told it to give the information out. Just do not fill out the form and give them the info. That is the only way the get it :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From revaughn@webtv.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:06:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:06:57 -0500 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN revaughn@webtv.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof As I have mentioned before, I bit on the first fake email I got, realized after talking to our one daughter what I had done, and immediately changed my password. I haven't had any trouble since, but the fake ones from ebay, paypal, and various banks just keep coming. Elizabeth From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:33:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:33:01 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof By clicking on the link, you launch a "background trojan". You don't have to enter a thing in the form...that's not what they want. You now have a silent program running in the background, that records your local keystrokes. This information is continually sent to the remote system, and they glean all kinds of sensitive information about you from that. Your friend NEEDS to clean her system...NOW. Everything she types is being watched. Kevin At 01:45 PM 2/17/05, you wrote: >Yesterday, a work colleague got one of the fake Ebay emails asking for >information, saying that her account was being suspended, the usual >malarkey. She had never received one before so she clicked on the >link, noticed that it wanted fairly personal information, got suspicious >and got out of the email. Well, today someone is London, England has >listed software for sale on Ebay under my friend's user name. She >contacted Ebay and has been told that just clicking on these emails may >be enough for someone to get her user name and password. > > > >Everyone out there, please be careful. Do not open these fraudulent >Ebay messages!!! Her experience should be a lesson to all of us. By >the way, this woman is very computer savvy and even she was fooled! > > > >Beth in Kentucky > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:07 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:07 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: > Well, I'm no expert but I can attest that she did not fill out any > information and Ebay is the one who told her "it is possible" that > someone can get your user name and password if you click on these > messages. Yes, I realize that it seems far fetched, but I will > certainly not be opening one ever again. Not worth taking a chance. > Yes, it is certainly a good idea just to never open them or go to the link shown. I agree 100%. This will keep anyone from coming close to having a problem. I should also qualify on my last statements. Yes it "is possible", but not likely.. What would have to happen is: 1. You would have to be currently logged into your ebay account. 2. Your session would have be current (active) 3. You would have to click on the email, open it up, then click on the link they have provided What would be "possible" is they could write a script that captures your cookie. Though they would have to get that cookie in like say, 5 minutes and then use it to get into your account at which point they could go mad listing things, or whatever else they do. Is this likely? No. Possible? Yes. Hope this clarifies. Again, it is best like Beth says, just delete them and move on :-) Frankly it is not even worth notifying eBay or PayPal about these notices unless you live next to the person doing it and can prove it. There are literally tens of thousands of these scams running at any given time. The abusers use hacked computers, stolen or fraudulent accounts to collect their phishing data. Tracking them down is like trying to win the lottery big. It's possible but not likely. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:34:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:34:27 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:06 PM, ELIZABETH VAUGHN wrote: > As I have mentioned before, I bit on the first fake email I got, > realized after talking to our one daughter what I had done, and > immediately changed my password. I haven't had any trouble since, but > the fake ones from ebay, paypal, and various banks just keep coming. > Elizabeth Yeah, if you ever have any doubt it does not hurt to change your user info.. Just make sure that you are doing so directly at eBay and via their secure link. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:36:43 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:36:43 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please help out the eBay sellers! On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:06 AM, MidwestVintage@aol.com wrote: > Don't forget McCoy Pottery has an auction site and there is also old > and sold > which charges its sellers nothing to list. > > Thank you for the plug. We broke 200 registered users that other day by the way. We are seeing 2-4 signups per day! As always there is a $10 listing credit. http://auction.mccoypottery.com Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From lisaherewa@hotmail.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:00:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:00:57 -0800 From: lisa a lisaherewa@hotmail.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof If I send you spam, and you open it, I can get your user ID from the eBay member search. If I write a script to submit data onClose, I can capture the information you entered on a Web form even if you don't click the SUBMIT button. If you are missing key security updates and you open HTML spam and then perform seemingly innocent input tasks, such as clicking the scroll bar, I can turn your computer into a porn zombie while I sell stolen software under your ID and sell the personally identifiable information I gathered to credit card and passport frauds. Remove malicious software: http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx Update Windows: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com Update Office: http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/ Remove spyware (beta): http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx ### ### ----Original Message Follows---- From: "McCoyPottery.com List Mom" Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:07 -0600 On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: >Well, I'm no expert but I can attest that she did not fill out any >information and Ebay is the one who told her "it is possible" that >someone can get your user name and password if you click on these >messages. Yes, I realize that it seems far fetched, but I will >certainly not be opening one ever again. Not worth taking a chance. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:03:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:03:24 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:33 PM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > By clicking on the link, you launch a "background trojan". You don't > have to enter a thing in the form...that's not what they want. You > now have a silent program running in the background, that records your > local keystrokes. This information is continually sent to the remote > system, and they glean all kinds of sensitive information about you > from that. Ok, this requires the following assumptions: 1. End user is using Windows 2. End user is using Outlook 3. End user actually opened the message and then 'clicked' on the link in the message Solutions: 1. Don't click on the link in the message 2. Don't use Outlook 3. Don't use Windows In any event if they were using web based email and simply looked at the message there are only two entities that know about this: 1. Your mail server 2. Your mail client So simply looking at a message from a Web Based email system, say, PINE, Mail.App, or most other non-windoze based mail client is not going to signal a auto-execute. It just cannot happen since no one but the mail server and the mail client knows about the request to view the message/header, etc. However, if there is a link that goes to an outside source and downloads the trojon, or activates the trojan, assuming it was sent as an attachment with the message, then it can happen. Ultimately, just delete anything you think is questionable, and don't click on the embedded links. That or you could get a Mac :-) > > Your friend NEEDS to clean her system...NOW. Everything she types is > being watched. > > I really would not panic. Just go to Start --> Run --> then type "msconfig" and click "Enter" (Return on your Mac keyboard). Go to "StartUp items" and look at "Running Processes." If you see something you do not recognize, disable it, then do a Google for its name. My guess is however given how cryptic everything is in the pc world, you will see strange names for items which are not going to make any sense unless you do this all the time and recognize known oddities. So, I would suggest you visit lavasoftusa.com and get AdAware and run it regularly. That along with Spybot are the two best tools I have seen out there for treating and preventing windoze based problems outside of completely ending dependancy on windoze... :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:13:06 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:13:06 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:00 PM, lisa a wrote: > If I send you spam, and you open it, I can get your user ID from the > eBay member search. Ah, but you assume everyone is using flawed software. I am not using OE or a PC. > > If I write a script to submit data onClose, I can capture the > information you entered on a Web form even if you don't click the > SUBMIT button. Certainly... But then again, no one should be entering this data in in the first place. Though people still do. Best not to visit the link at all. I do all the time however. I run an ISP and one of the things I end up doing is fielding these as they come in. We do a good job of blocking a great many of them, but not all. As an ISP you really need to set up a first line of defense so to speak to deal with this type of spam. It cuts down on our support calls and saves many users the aggravation. > > If you are missing key security updates and you open HTML spam and > then perform seemingly innocent input tasks, such as clicking the > scroll bar, I can turn your computer into a porn zombie while I sell > stolen software under your ID and sell the personally identifiable > information I gathered to credit card and passport frauds. True, though most of these "spyware" (as they are commonly called) programs exist to spam. There are malicious ones out there, but the majority are just poorly written smtp bots. If you must use Windows, please do turn on your firewall, and make sure you are up to date with the latest patches and security updates. > > Remove malicious software: > http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx > Update Windows: > http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > Update Office: > http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/ > Remove spyware (beta): > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Pretty dangerous stuff. Don't get me wrong, you can very easily secure a Microsoft Based PC, and they can be quite stable.. The thing is the average user does not know how to do this, nor would they want to waste the time trying to do it. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:01:06 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:01:06 -0600 From: Betty Bettyfnelson@mchsi.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof Lisa, thank you for putting all these links here so handy for any one to use. I have had my problems in the past with every virus, trojan and spyware and I try to be very careful and run scans frequently and have just hooked up a new computer. I use www.ebay.com frequently to just go look for something or to price something and never type in my user name or go anywhere where they have my user name on the screen. In the past 2 weeks I purchased something over Ebay and 3 different times I logged in with my user name to place a bet. I got 3 of the spoof emails and they were sent about 2 minutes apart. I sent them all to Spoof @ebay and they acknowledged them and said that they were indeed bad stuff. Last time I had logged on and bid twice and I got 2 of the spoofs. This makes me think that they are using something that is inbedded in the Ebay equiptment. Betty from Ia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lisa a" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof > If I send you spam, and you open it, I can get your user ID from the eBay > member search. > > If I write a script to submit data onClose, I can capture the information > you entered on a Web form even if you don't click the SUBMIT button. > > If you are missing key security updates and you open HTML spam and then > perform seemingly innocent input tasks, such as clicking the scroll bar, > I can turn your computer into a porn zombie while I sell stolen software > under your ID and sell the personally identifiable information I gathered > to credit card and passport frauds. > > Remove malicious software: > http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx > Update Windows: > http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > Update Office: > http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/ > Remove spyware (beta): > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx > > ### > > > > > ### > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "McCoyPottery.com List Mom" > Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com > Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:07 -0600 > > > On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: > >>Well, I'm no expert but I can attest that she did not fill out any >>information and Ebay is the one who told her "it is possible" that >>someone can get your user name and password if you click on these >>messages. Yes, I realize that it seems far fetched, but I will >>certainly not be opening one ever again. Not worth taking a chance. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from the list, send email to > mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > From lisaherewa@hotmail.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:53:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:53:37 -0800 From: lisa a lisaherewa@hotmail.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof The eBay reverse lookup system is handy but it makes it awfully easy to compile effective "known target" phishing attacks. I don't have to be smart enough to hack the database; just motivated enough to use the Find Member page over and over. I am platform neutral -- have Windows and Mac. Cannot be bothered to learn anything else (would rather pet the dogs than learn Unix). BUT if you happen to use Windows/Windoze/whatever you want to call it, it is worth keeping current with the latest security updates. They are released every second Tuesday of the month. If you have a recent version, you can configure your computer to download and install the high-priority security updates automatically. There is a ton of information on Microsoft.com geared toward home users and security incident response, and to avoid boring the group with all of it, if any of you want some of the highlights, ping me offlist (lisaherewa@hotmail.com) and I'll compile a URL list for you this week. ### ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Betty" Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com To: Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:01:06 -0600 Lisa, thank you for putting all these links here so handy for any one to use. I have had my problems in the past with every virus, trojan and spyware and I try to be very careful and run scans frequently and have just hooked up a new computer. I use www.ebay.com frequently to just go look for something or to price something and never type in my user name or go anywhere where they have my user name on the screen. In the past 2 weeks I purchased something over Ebay and 3 different times I logged in with my user name to place a bet. I got 3 of the spoof emails and they were sent about 2 minutes apart. I sent them all to Spoof @ebay and they acknowledged them and said that they were indeed bad stuff. Last time I had logged on and bid twice and I got 2 of the spoofs. This makes me think that they are using something that is inbedded in the Ebay equiptment. Betty from Ia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lisa a" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof >If I send you spam, and you open it, I can get your user ID from the eBay >member search. > >If I write a script to submit data onClose, I can capture the information >you entered on a Web form even if you don't click the SUBMIT button. > >If you are missing key security updates and you open HTML spam and then >perform seemingly innocent input tasks, such as clicking the scroll bar, I >can turn your computer into a porn zombie while I sell stolen software >under your ID and sell the personally identifiable information I gathered >to credit card and passport frauds. > >Remove malicious software: >http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx >Update Windows: >http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com >Update Office: >http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/ >Remove spyware (beta): >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx > >### > > > > >### > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "McCoyPottery.com List Mom" >Reply-To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com >Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Ebay Spoof >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:07 -0600 > > >On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Cunningham, Beth wrote: > >>Well, I'm no expert but I can attest that she did not fill out any >>information and Ebay is the one who told her "it is possible" that >>someone can get your user name and password if you click on these >>messages. Yes, I realize that it seems far fetched, but I will >>certainly not be opening one ever again. Not worth taking a chance. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To be removed from the list, send email to >mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com >with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > >You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From mjtn@charter.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:28:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:28:13 -0600 From: mjtn@charter.net mjtn@charter.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] general computer stuff. was: Ebay Spoof >Solutions: > >>1. Don't click on the link in the message >>2. Don't use Outlook >>3. Don't use Windows This is so not about McCoy, but since this topic applies to everyone with an online computer, I thought I'd share. I'm a doh-doh when it comes to technical stuff. I know the basics of my computer and how to get around the internet, and that's about it. But I've had a computer online since 1995, and I've never had problems I couldn't fix myself --- so far. When I first got online, I had "Windows for Workgroups." What a trip that was, having to learn everything on my own. When I got my first computer, I barely knew where the enter key was, and that's no exaggeration. At the time, there were no night classes, etc. where I live. It took about 3 months to even really get around my own computer very well, let alone getting around the internet. Anyway ... It wasn't long after that when I bought\installed windows 95. Soon after, I was in a "newbie" chat room on IRC, and met up with a really nice guy who saw that I knew nothing, and told me some basics. I've done what he said ever since, and I've had very few problems. He told me to download Eudora and use that for email along with instructions for how to set everything in "options." (I set it not to open html, etc.). I've downloaded an updated version only twice, and I'm still using it. And when I "sign up" for any kind of email updates, listservs, etc., when I'm given the choice, I choose to get the "text only" version. As far as I know, I've never received a virus\worm\etc. through email, even when that was the rage. I just don't click on anything I'm not absolutely sure of. If I did, my virus-thingie caught it, and I never knew it. (See how techie I am?) :) He also told me to download and use Netscape as opposed to Internet Explorer. He told me how to set all the options, and I did that. So I've had few problems with viruses that way. When I do get one, the virus protection thing gets it. Like ListMom said, I downloaded (free) AVG Anti-Virus at lavasoft.com and it's been pretty good. (There's another good, free anti-virus thing, but I can't remember what it's called right now). I also use AdAware and SpyBot Search and Destroy. You can set the AVG thing to update itself and then run the "check" at a specific time every day. Since I'm on a cable connection and I leave my computer on 24/7, I set it to do that at 1am every night so that it doesn't start doing its thing while I'm in the middle of something. I used to hear people say to never leave your connection open all the time like that, but I've never had any problems. By the way, I've never used a firewall. (I think the reason I don't have problems is because of the other precautions I've taken explained in the last paragraph). The Start-Run-msconfig-startup thing to check on what's running is one good way to check something out if you already have a problem. But like ListMom said, you need to know what should actually be running and what shouldn't before you start "un-checking" things. If you un-check the wrong thing, your computer wont run correctly. But there's one thing that even un-techie people like me can do in there. You can easily make your computer boot faster if you have programs that open every time you start your computer, but you'd rather they didn't open until you want to use them. Lots of the things many of us install, like chat programs (msn messenger, yahoo messenger, etc.) ... and lots of other things, will set themselves to open every time you start (boot) your computer. All you have to do is go into that "startup" thing, and un-check it, and then click "apply." (It might ask you to re-start your computer for the new settings to take affect, but you can wait until later if you want). I'd advise leaving your virus checker alone in "start-up" to just let it boot every time the computer starts. I did get one kind of virus or worm or something one time that AVG said it didn't know what to do about. So I did as ListMom said --- google'd the name of the virus which pointed me to a webpage explaining exactly what to do about it. I did it, and it worked. The point is, even we who aren't very techie can still figure things out by just relaxing, not getting uptight, and taking the time to read about it. In the 10 years of having 4 different computers online along with the occasional typical problems, I've never had to use the local high school computer nerds to come over and fix something. So far, I've always figured it out by using online searches or going to chat rooms where they discuss stuff like this, and asking questions. By the way, I've also downloaded cool stuff at a really good website for things like this. It's called Gibson Research at http://grc.com/default.htm It's a fun and educational place to go prowling around when you have the time. They freely share lots of good info. re: MS "anomalies" (to put it nicely). They offer lots of free downloads for whichever "fix\plug\patch\un-plug" etc., etc. that your particular computer needs, making it much less vulnerable. He seems to know all the quirks of each operating system. He uses only "pure language" in the programs he writes, leaving out all the "garbage" and making the file sizes smaller. Anyway, it's a good site because he makes it as easy as possible for someone like me to understand. Mark -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 From listmom@mccoypottery.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:03:01 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:03:01 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] general computer stuff. was: Ebay Spoof On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:28 PM, mjtn@charter.net wrote: > >> Solutions: >> >>> 1. Don't click on the link in the message >>> 2. Don't use Outlook >>> 3. Don't use Windows > > This is so not about McCoy, but since this topic applies to everyone > with an online computer, I thought I'd share. True, but it certainly does apply where as it concerns people on this group (many of a non-technical nature) that need to be aware of scams and other issues as it concerns the net, looking for pottery, using eBay whatever. It's a little off topic, but believe me, not as bad as some of the lists I am on. I moderate quite loosely if you all have not noticed, mainly because things rarely get too out of hand here. Anyway, good information :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:47:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:47:45 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] general computer stuff. was: Ebay Spoof I run spybot search and destroy once every couple of days, it seems to work for me. It is available for free at spybot.com. all that other stuff in the thread has given me a headache, I'm gonna drink a beer now, lol. Dave "McCoyPottery.com List Mom" wrote: On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:28 PM, mjtn@charter.net wrote: > >> Solutions: >> >>> 1. Don't click on the link in the message >>> 2. Don't use Outlook >>> 3. Don't use Windows > > This is so not about McCoy, but since this topic applies to everyone > with an online computer, I thought I'd share. True, but it certainly does apply where as it concerns people on this group (many of a non-technical nature) that need to be aware of scams and other issues as it concerns the net, looking for pottery, using eBay whatever. It's a little off topic, but believe me, not as bad as some of the lists I am on. I moderate quite loosely if you all have not noticed, mainly because things rarely get too out of hand here. Anyway, good information :-) Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! – Get yours free! From lisaherewa@hotmail.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:54:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:54:11 -0800 From: lisa a lisaherewa@hotmail.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] general computer stuff. was: Ebay Spoof >>I'm a doh-doh when it comes to technical stuff. Nuh-uh! All good stuff and some of it's pretty advanced conceptually and configuratively. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From tharlan@twinvalley.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:29:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:29:36 -0600 From: Tim Harlan tharlan@twinvalley.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends Can anyone tell me if these are real McCoy? 7301712600 ,=20=20=20=20=20= =20 My book also indicates they should be marked NM. Are the repros marked McCoy? I see several in completed auctions marked McCoy and=20 some are by known repro sellers... kansas farmer= From damitboy@yahoo.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends I just looked in my books and the only pic I have is in the snyder book and they are white and should be marked N/M USA. My volume 3 HNH doesnt show them but they are in vol. 1 and 2 pages 80,83 in volume 1 and page 134 in volume 2. thats as much as I can tell ya, oh yeah, they book for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than the starting bid. Dave Tim Harlan wrote: Can anyone tell me if these are real McCoy? 7301712600 , My book also indicates they should be marked NM. Are the repros marked McCoy? I see several in completed auctions marked McCoy and some are by known repro sellers... kansas farmer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:43:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:43:59 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends They are fake. Those are shown on Rosso's on-line catalog.... http://wholesale-glass-dealer.com/products/mccoy/99957.jpg Don't like em in pink? Also available in aqua, green, yellow and cobalt. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From damitboy@yahoo.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:45:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends Go Walter, lol......you and that rosso site, heheh Walter McEntire wrote:They are fake. Those are shown on Rosso's on-line catalog.... http://wholesale-glass-dealer.com/products/mccoy/99957.jpg Don't like em in pink? Also available in aqua, green, yellow and cobalt. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:08:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:08:14 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Please join us on eBay Hi all, eBay pulled the "About Me" page we posted that mirrored the info on fakers we have up for auction for "opinionated material" not allowed per the user agreement. Obviously, we are not happy about that, and started a thread on the "Trust and Safety" forum. We've invited the pottery and glass forum people to join us, and now I'd like to invite you nice people to join also. Let's see if we can't get eBay's attention...they don't like to see their dirty laundry aired in public. :-) http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?messageID=200346868� Thanks! Kevin From tharlan@twinvalley.net Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:14:54 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:14:54 -0600 From: Tim Harlan tharlan@twinvalley.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends Thanks Walter; I see that several of the fake sellers have the= m on ebay. Now, I need to know: are only the fake repros marked "McC= oy".? And the real thing marked "NM" ?=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 The reason I ask is that I am going to an estate sale that has a pair of t= hese in aqua and they are marked "McCoy". Hard to believe repros are s= howing up in the middle of Kansas in a estate sale, but I am inclined to th= ink it may be possible. Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter McEntire=20 To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends They are fake. Those are shown on Rosso's on-line catalog.... http://wholesale-glass-dealer.com/products/mccoy/99957.jpg Don't like em in pink? Also available in aqua, green, yellow and cobalt. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mcco= ypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:49:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends I'm not an expert on the marks, but based on the color, I'd be suspicious. Are they matte glaze or shiny? I think the fakes are all the high gloss glaze. And according to Kevin... Roger's wife is in Kansas now... so... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From MidwestVintage@aol.com Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:37:44 EST Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:37:44 EST From: MidwestVintage@aol.com MidwestVintage@aol.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends The repos are showing up in Iowa, South Dakota, Nebraska, all over. They are getting pretty popular. Julia From kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:10:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:10:12 -0500 From: Kevin Reffitt kreffitt@pbtcomm.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... Well list, another skirmish won. Roger Jensen (mccoypotterymaker) and his wife Avon Gunter (rrhcookiejarlady) have been NARU's from eBay. Ever since we put up that "About Me" page, we've been besieged by the fake sellers. They even got us suspended for 30 days. BUT The truth prevails! We screamed loud enough. We contacted MSNBC, our Senators and Representive, and the State Attorney General. We even copied all our information directly to Bill Cobb, President of eBay. Guess what happened? eBay called us. They listened, and they acted. Roger is gone. Happy Valentines Day to ALL!!! If we end up having to endure a 30 day vacation from eBay, then so be it. Sometimes the truth comes with a price, and this one we are willing to pay. Kevin and Michelle From LMuffee@charter.net Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:36:01 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:36:01 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Linda (home) LMuffee@charter.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends =0D Hey Tim, =0D =0D There were 2 different Lily Bud Bookends. According to HNH Pg. 137, 1 is marked NM and the other is marked McCoy. Hope you find lots of neat stuff at the Estate Sale. Good Luck!=0D =0D Linda=0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Tim Harlan=0D Date: 02/17/05 21:15:26=0D To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=0D Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends=0D =0D Thanks Walter; I see that several of the fake sellers have them on ebay. Now, I need to know: are only the fake repros marked "McCoy" ? And the real thing marked "NM" ?=0D The reason I ask is that I am going to an estate sale that has a pair of these in aqua and they are marked "McCoy". Hard to believe repros are showing up in the middle of Kansas in a estate sale, but I am inclined to think it may be possible.=0D Tim=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: Walter McEntire=0D To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com=0D Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:43 PM=0D Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] lily bud bookends=0D =0D =0D They are fake. Those are shown on Rosso's on-line=0D catalog....=0D =0D http://wholesale-glass-dealer.com/products/mccoy/99957.jpg=0D =0D Don't like em in pink? Also available in aqua, green,=0D yellow and cobalt.=0D =0D __________________________________________________=0D Do You Yahoo!?=0D Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=0D http://mail.yahoo.com=0D =0D =0D =0D =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com=0D with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.=0D =0D You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com=0D with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.=0D =0D You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com= From mccoynut@maplecity.com Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:43:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:43:57 -0600 From: Ken McDaneld mccoynut@maplecity.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... Congratulations!!! Darn few people would be as determined to see this through. Lets hear it for your good dead. Thanks for the good job, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Reffitt" To: "mccoypottery-talklistsmccoypotterycom" Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... > Well list, another skirmish won. > > Roger Jensen (mccoypotterymaker) > and his wife > Avon Gunter (rrhcookiejarlady) > > have been NARU's from eBay. Ever since we put up that "About Me" page, > we've been besieged by the fake sellers. They even got us suspended for 30 > days. > > BUT > > The truth prevails! > > We screamed loud enough. We contacted MSNBC, our Senators and > Representive, and the State Attorney General. We even copied all our > information directly to Bill Cobb, President of eBay. > > Guess what happened? eBay called us. They listened, and they > acted. Roger is gone. > > Happy Valentines Day to ALL!!! > > If we end up having to endure a 30 day vacation from eBay, then so be > it. Sometimes the truth comes with a price, and this one we are willing to > pay. > > Kevin and Michelle > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com > with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. > > You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From bigbvideo@yahoo.com Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:44:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Walter McEntire bigbvideo@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... Congratulations, you guys... Great job! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From damitboy@yahoo.com Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:01:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: david mcCoy damitboy@yahoo.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... Kudos to my fellow southerner! Nice going Kevin!!!!!!!!!!! Walter McEntire wrote:Congratulations, you guys... Great job! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From teedub@gamewood.net Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:03:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:03:39 -0500 From: Tom Walker teedub@gamewood.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Purple Basketweave Someone on the list was looking for a large Purple Basketweave flower pot. I found the set of 3 on ebay, Item # is 7302338409 Just thought I would give a helping hand. Tom= From listmom@mccoypottery.com Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:54:22 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:54:22 -0600 From: McCoyPottery.com List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Roger's gone again... On Feb 18, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Kevin Reffitt wrote: > Well list, another skirmish won. > > Interesting. I wonder how long before he is back? It is really easy to re-sign up again. Anyway, the battle won, but not the war. Nice to see him gone again! Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online www.mccoypottery.com listmom@mccoypottery.com ____________________________________________ McCoy Pottery Auctions: http://auction.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com McCoy Pottery Store: http://store.mccoypottery.com From Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:42:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:42:03 -0500 From: Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Karen.Phillips@trimmasters.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] McCoy Purple Basketweave I would be the one needing the large purple basketweave. I'll check it out. Thanks for the help. : ) Karen-in-KY ====================================================================== This e-mail and any attachments from Trim Masters, Inc. may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From easton@mia.net Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:17:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:17:45 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Easton easton@mia.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore Testing mailing list, please ignore. Thanks From capriherb@earthlink.net Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:52:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:52:32 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore oh wow!!! Finally a post!! So were we down? Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of Josh Easton Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:18 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore Testing mailing list, please ignore. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From listmom@mccoypottery.com Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:16:39 -0600 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:16:39 -0600 From: McCoy Pottery List Mom listmom@mccoypottery.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore On Feb 26, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Jennifer Smith wrote: > oh wow!!! Finally a post!! > So were we down? > We upgraded PERL on the server and it apparently broke some things. We have fixed the problem with the list. I am pretty sure it broke on the 21st. We had a lot of other items to test, but missed the mailing list and archives in our testing. Sorry about this. All should be 100% again. If not, do let me know. As to messages that were previously posted while the list server was broken, they are there, however there is something that is still broken with our list archiver which we will not have fixed until Monday. In the mean time any new posts will show up without issue. Keep in mind that the McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com were working as they run on a different server, so if you needed to get your fix, or had a question, the forums are a great place to do this as well. They are gaining in popularity and getting quite active. Thank you. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists From capriherb@earthlink.net Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:48:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:48:21 -0500 From: Jennifer Smith capriherb@earthlink.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore Thanks!!! I emailed you earlier today to see what was going on! Yes, it appears it was the 21st! And I have a piece I need help with. A customer came in and said it was unmarked McCoy and I didn't think so. So the piece has been put in the back until I can further ID it. If anyone has a chance, let me know and I'll send you the photo! -----Original Message----- From: mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com [mailto:mccoypottery-talk-admin@lists.mccoypottery.com]On Behalf Of McCoy Pottery List Mom Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:17 PM To: mccoypottery-talk@lists.mccoypottery.com Subject: Re: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore On Feb 26, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Jennifer Smith wrote: > oh wow!!! Finally a post!! > So were we down? > We upgraded PERL on the server and it apparently broke some things. We have fixed the problem with the list. I am pretty sure it broke on the 21st. We had a lot of other items to test, but missed the mailing list and archives in our testing. Sorry about this. All should be 100% again. If not, do let me know. As to messages that were previously posted while the list server was broken, they are there, however there is something that is still broken with our list archiver which we will not have fixed until Monday. In the mean time any new posts will show up without issue. Keep in mind that the McCoy Pottery Forums: http://forums.mccoypottery.com were working as they run on a different server, so if you needed to get your fix, or had a question, the forums are a great place to do this as well. They are gaining in popularity and getting quite active. Thank you. Regards, The List Mom McCoy Pottery Online http://www.mccoypottery.com e-mail: listmom@mccoypottery.com ___________________________________________ List Server: http://www.mccoypottery.com/mailinglists ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To be removed from the list, send email to mccoypottery-talk-request@mccoypottery.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. You can also unsubscribe on line at: http://lists.mccoypottery.com From Curly79065@wmconnect.com Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:13:02 EST Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:13:02 EST From: Curly79065@wmconnect.com Curly79065@wmconnect.com Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore I will be glad to help if I can curlystoner101@yahoo.com From revaughn@webtv.net Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:36:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:36:41 -0500 From: ELIZABETH VAUGHN revaughn@webtv.net Subject: [Mccoypottery-talk] Test email - please ignore Jennifer, I will be willing to take a look. Elizabeth