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[List Mom]

EARPLUG2@aol.com said:

>My name is Margo Flaherty and I live in Columbus, Ohio. I have been a McCoy 
>enthusiast my whole life, growing up literally surrounded by McCoy from 
>childhood.
>
>I have enjoyed reading all the banter back and forth about Mccoy on this 
>list, but because I  have not really been avidly collecting for a long time, 
>I haven't felt the need to write.....until now.   
> 
>I must say that I am truly embarrassed by the insulting and demeaning 
>remarks 
>which the "List Mom" invariably makes when someone expresses frustration 
>with 
>being removed from the list. 

Please explain more.  I have never tried to be insulting to anyone on 
this list.  I am here to help.  I sometimes will, however, encourage some 
people to think for themselves, but that is the way I am.  
>
>This is a poor reflection on her, on McCoy enthusiasts in general, and would 
>only ensure that the "recipient" of such remarks would never want to hear 
>the 
>word McCoy ever again, let alone learn about it or perhaps even collect it 
>someday.

"Her", is actually a He.  I highly doubt that anyone is going to have 
their love of McCoy Pottery affected in an adverse way by my ramblings.  
> 
>I see this site as a haven for McCoy lovers worldwide, hopefully run by 
>professionals, whose only goal is to allow McCoy enthusiasts to share their 
>love, support, and knowledge for some of the most whimsical and artistic 
>pottery ever designed. 

Our goal is and always has been to have an open exchange of information 
with regards to McCoy Pottery.  We do this merely as a hobby, with no 
support either monetarily, or otherwise from anyone.  We will continue to 
do so freely as long as our time permits.
>
>I don't see it as a forum for insulting poor souls who are confused or 
>frustrated in their attempts to communicate with, or be excommunicated from, 
>the site.

I am not trying to insult anyone.  I am merely suggesting that someone 
try very hard, to think for themselves.  This is not rocket science we 
are dealing with.  We have very simple instructions on how to subscribe, 
and unsubscribe from the list.  We even went to so far as to post a web 
based form for subscribing and unsubscribing on our web site.  Our list 
server works the same as any other list server out there.  The rules are 
the same, the etiquette is the same, and the process for unsubscribing is 
the same.  The real "insult" is when someone cannot think for themselves.
>
>Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I thought "moms" were supposed to be loving and 
>supportive. Only a "mom" who delights in deprecating others would fall so 
>low 
>as to speak to anyone in such a demeaning manner. 

Yes, but Moms are also supposed to help their children learn to think for 
themselves.  Mothers nurture and teach, they also let go, and sometimes 
throw the chick from the nest.  If it can't fly, then apparently it was 
not meant to.  This does not mean it can't learn though.
>
>I believe any further communication between the "Listmom" and "Listees" 
>should be polite, professional, and conciliatory. What is the advantage of 
>rudeness or sarcasm?

It always has been (polite that is).  Look, I have been doing this for 
over three years now.  I moderate a lot of lists, and you do not ever see 
half of the abuse that leaves me on the receiving end in the course of a 
day.  I cannot tell you how many emails I get sent Directly to me 
demanding that I "unsubscribe" someone, or that I am going to face 
federal prosecution if I do not remove them.  Most of these comments are 
quite vulgar and written in anger, rather than out of confusion.  I am 
truly sorry if you think I have offended anyone, however, the fact 
remains that there should be no reason that someone could not remove 
themselves from this list.  After all, they got on it.

I understand that the wife, for instance, may have subscribed and forgot 
about it, while the husband is going crazy trying to figure out how to 
get off of the list.  All I ask is that when you are confused in life you 
step back, take a deep breath, and think.  The answer to the problem, is 
always in the problem.  

It is flat out rude to send unsubscribe messages to a mailing list.  I 
have said time and time again, that if you have having troubles, please 
do email me directly at: listmom@mccoypottery.com and I will be more than 
happy to help.  100% of the time though, I find no problems what so ever, 
and have always been able to without a single problem, even though I get 
responses from people that say, "I have been trying to do this for over a 
year."  Hogwash!  I can go back into the logs of the list server and find 
either no record of them ever sending a single request to the list 
server, or and this is most common.  They send a request to the list 
server to be unsubsribed from an email address that is NOT subscribed to 
this list.
>
>These remarks to "Bob," and previous remarks to others, were uncalled for, 
>ext
>remely unprofessional, and not funny........especially to the recipients, 
>I'm 
>sure.
>
Believe me, I am not trying to be funny, though I do get quite a chuckle 
out of the lack of brain cells lurking on the net today.  All I ask is 
that people grasp that old, and nearly lost of concept of thinking.  
There are several hundred people on this list, and thousands on others 
that I moderate that do NOT have difficulty figuring things out, 
especially when we have simple instructions listed at the bottom of every 
single email from this list.

Regards,

The List Mom

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